cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37112962
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Are people not copying their backup off their device periodically?
Personally I’d find it useful to create backups by year so the process doesn’t take twenty minutes and wouldn’t create a massive backup file.
A couple years ago I had to make an effort of sending gallery links instead of sharing images and video directly through Signal since my backup file had grown so large. It’s a bit arduous.
Are people not copying their backup off their device periodically?
Do you change your air filter, clean your keyboard, floss your teeth, derust your tools, organize your files, respond to all your messages, keep on top of available tax breaks and deals, dust under your bed etc?
No one does every random maintenance task as often as they should meaning that everyone is letting some slip occasionally which means you should expect that no, not everyone is periodically backing up and transferring their DMs to a different device.
I’m keeping this because I really do feel like “techie” people forget that tech shit shit like back ups are a chore that 99% of people would rather not deal with.
I notice that a lot here on Lemmy, and I think that’s because most of us here have at least an above-average understanding of current technologies, and tend to forget that we’re a very small minority of people. So when above-average understandings are commonplace in your online bubble, your view of what an “average” understanding is can become skewed.
ALL people forget that different people have different priorities and as such will “slack” where others are “diligent”. Our lives have gotten so complex that you would have a hard time finding a single person that does not slack in some areas, deemed important by some subset of society. Sport, nutrition, financial security, education, minimal tech secop, political action (atleast voting), a clean living space, clothing thats considered acceptable, an active social live and the list goes on.
So to summarize, of course “techies” forget that backups are not important to most people. Thats just normal behaviour for people in general.
Does having an app on the desktop PC do this for you basically? If I lost my phone today but signal was still installed on my PC. Wouldn’t that be a backup?
Unfortunately no, the new installation on the phone will not sync any previous chats from a desktop client.
Well my point was not that every random maintenance task under the sun gets done and ticked off a mile long list.
It seems a reasonable guess that a person whose hobby is building custom mechanical keyboards probably does keep it clean. I figured people using an encrypted messaging system with backups enabled would probably go to the trouble of ensuring those backups didn’t live in one place.
From your comment and a few others, it’s evident I was wrong in this thought. Among other things, it seems some people don’t want backups at all, which is a bit surprising to me. That’s why I asked the question.
It seems a reasonable guess that a person whose hobby is building custom mechanical keyboards probably does keep it clean. I figured people using an encrypted messaging system with backups enabled would probably go to the trouble of ensuring those backups didn’t live in one place.
The point is that encrypted messaging is not a hobby for anyone but Moxie Marlinspike. It’s just a tool that people use for communication. WhatsApp and iMessage are both encrypted and have relatively seamless backup solutions and do not require any extra thought or effort.
It is weirder to me that people back shit like this up. I have zero desire to keep a backup of chat and random images people have sent me.
I’ll run a backup and restore when moving to a new device, because why not. But regular backups? Meh, the ether can have my messages if my phone dies.
That said, depending on how this new system is rolled out, I may subscribe just to support the Signal foundation.
