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What is “enough”?

You’re demanding an exact boundary while offering nothing in return but an avalanche of vague imprecise claims with no sources cited.

You can not pay people “enough”. People do not care about their individual wealth. They only care about how wealthy they are compared to others.

The majority of people can never be wealthy, because people only consider themselves wealthy if they have someone (or rather many) to look down upon.

Speak for yourself and only yourself. You don’t speak for me. You don’t speak for the people I call friends. You only speak for a narrow “keeping up with the Joneses” sort of American asshole that is actually getting a bit rarer as boomers slowly die off and not enough young people echo that ideology to sustain it.

Save your “all human beings are exactly the same way, therefore capitalism good” naturalistic bullshit claims for and for that matter save your bootlicking apologia for there, too.

Lastly, what are you arguing for? That it’s cool and good to underpay people that do the most unpleasant (and in many cases, most important for society’s ongoing functioning) tasks because of some biotruthy sophistry about how no amount of pay would be enough therefore underpaying them is good? Or extending your argument to its conclusion, if it’s just “how much compared to everyone else” that matters, you are seriously arguing for everyone to get paid less if they aren’t in some exclusive very special secret club of very special elite people (that you probably include yourself into)? Fuck that.

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As cited above, the GDP per capita in Germany doubles every few years.

How many times more do you think it has to be doubled until you and your friends deem themselves wealthy.

They never will. Because you, too, define wealth as being able to look down on others (in your social environment).

A large part of the world’s population would consider themselves extremely wealthy if they had even near the income of a German worker earning minimum wage.

On a global scale, German minimum wage workers are very, very wealthy.

The only reason you’d ever consider German minimum wage to be too little is if you’re used to extreme excess, if you’ve lived in a hyper wealthy environment all your life.

You’re so used to extreme wealth, that you deem slightly less extreme wealth to be poverty. You consider it to be poverty, because the people surrounding you are even wealthier. You consider it poverty, because you can not look down on them.

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Oh, so you’re one of those smug (ethno)nationaist chuds that think that people in the United States that are one missed paycheck from homelessness, or are already homeless and are in physical decline from exposure and preventable illness are actually spoiled because some numbers on a screen say that that homeless person is actually a recipient of extreme wealth due to location while completely ignoring cost of living expenses because it doesn’t fit the numbers you want.

You’re way too far up your own ass to argue with, and you probably have goosestepping lessons to keep up with for the big plans you and yours have for your glorious fatherland in the future.

Most jobs are not fulfilling and would never be done voluntarily (at a relevant scale).

What is your glorious German superiority proposal for those “not fulfilling” jobs, then? Slavery? The US prison system might excite and thrill you if you look into it.

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What is your glorious German superiority proposal for those “not fulfilling” jobs, then?

The current system.

ignoring cost of living expenses

I don’t have detailed knowledge of the US economy, which is why I keep using Germany as an example.

In Germany you are never one paycheck away from being homeless unless you’re actively wasting money. As said before, 800€ is more than enough to live alone in an apartment. And you make more than double that (in the worst case).

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