Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they ‘hated’ it::“They were like, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They didn’t want to have anything to do with it,” Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.

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https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/

It’s not just an ideal conditions thing, Tesla is further away from their EPA estimates than every competitor. It’s borderline fraudulent and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it at least land in court.

I would buy any number of things from anyone else because of how big a liar Elon is, and how much he seems to get involved in fucking things up.

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I mean, ok, I get that, but it’s never been an issue for me personally. I’ve never had a vehicle that hit it’s EPA estimate when I drive 85+ with the AC at full blast when it’s 105+ outside. My truck is rated for 517 highway and I’ve never got more than 330 out of a tank, so, it is what it is I guess.

Edit: So I’m saying I assume I’ll need 500mi to hit ~350mi, that’s always been my base assumption.

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Ah gotcha, well… You might still need even more from Tesla then, because they exaggerate more than their competitors.

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