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64 points

He just pissed that business travel is still down. Sorry, it’s never going back to the way it was.

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He is mad because the pandemic allowed people to review their priorities and turn towards their personal lives rather than focusing on career lives. People today are less willing to work overtime, less willing to go above and beyond because they don’t care about that. It means less money for the fat cats which is why they are bitching so much.

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Yeah promotions don’t exist anymore, raises only come when you threaten to quit, and the only reward for loyalty is vacation time to use on getting sick. I’m not gonna show unrequited loyalty.

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I’m extremely pissed that my company went to “unlimited personal leave” as long as you can get your work done. I’m already salaried, so technically, I could have always done that. Now I’ve lost the 4 weeks of vacation (earned by decades of seniority) that once enjoyed without guilt or worry.

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More reasons we need more unions.

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Over the course of the pandemic I lost my dad and had a baby. I also changed jobs and took a promotion. That really gave me quite a bit of perspective and my priorities absolutely shifted.

I was(am?) a very ambitious, motivated, “go-getter” who has moved up the ranks fairly quickly and am in a very senior leadership position for my age. I genuinely like what I do, so that definitely helps. But I saw an unqualified person take over my old job and is, at best, ‘coasting’ and more realistically slowly killing an amazing platform I had helped develop–and driving away incredibly talented engineers and analysts.

Leadership changed and just moved on to the next shiny object and seems content to let that platform flounder because…it’s not their baby. Why on earth would you continue to move that invaluable platform forward when you can make a name for yourself on something else?

I don’t want this to sound like sour grapes, because its not that. It’s more that I realized, why did I kill myself for that job? The bigwigs seem to be totally fine cutting it loose. Why did I stress myself out to drive that platform forward so hard? Why should I kill myself, sacrifice limited time with my family to drive products forward when, as soon as leadership changes or as soon as I move on, it will get scrapped or forgotten about? It obviously wasn’t nearly as important as they claimed it to be.

So, I am not killing myself for work. I am taking my entire paternity leave and not taking a single call or text from work. I am not going to work overtime. I am not going to work on my day off. I am not going to travel unnecessarily. I am going to prioritize things that benefit me personally. And I am not going back into the office on someone else’s terms. (I honestly dont mind going in once or twice a week. I do less work in the office than I do at home tbh–as far as “work” goes its usually a free day. But I am fully remote officially and I’d probably hop to another company if they started to force me back in ‘officially’ because, like I said, I am prioritizing me and mine and commuting 45-60minutes each way, paying for parking, to sit on the same Zoom calls I can do at home, doesn’t really benefit me in any way.

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He’s also slightly mad because he now has to compete in a labor market where people can choose between:

A shitty waiting job that has you flying out of town daily, pay is about as much as a gas station clerk, has you dealing with some of the craziest ideologies on the planet because no one respects your authority. High Stress, low reward situation.

Then you have work from home: Right off the bat, you get 2 extra hours back from your daily commute. If you have kids, you are now saving hundreds of dollars monthly on child care. Car care costs go down. Gas costs go down. Less stressful situation, and more mentally stable.

The problem isn’t just that he is having to compete with work from home jobs, but he is now having to compete against the benefits of work from home. And there is only one way to do that: $$$.

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Agree with everything except;

If you have kids, you are now saving hundreds of dollars monthly on child care.

Myself and most WFHers know still put our kids in care, you simply can’t work and look after young kids simultaneously unless you only work at night or during naps.

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I do apologize, I seemed to have put every parent into the same logical group of thought, and that is wrong on my part.

Though I will reiterate the argument that once you start piling the cost savings from a work from home job, companies would have to pay more at a minimum to match those cost savings.

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I don’t know if “business traveler” is Frontier’s main customer, exactly.

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Frontier doesn’t fly business. If Frontier is pissed off, it is because it is causing the legacy carriers to muscle in on the vacation traffic his company flies.

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