A project that is seperated in different files is as difficult as in C(++), Java or Rust. Regarding the itendation I agree, but that’s personal preference. What ‘vanilla’ stuff can’t you do without libs?

Really? You hate python but recommend typescript? All the problems you cited about python are there, too!

Garbage stack traces that go through a hundred lines of node modules.

Dependency hell. Peer deps. Npm or yarn? An ecosystem where packages have a half life of weeks. A new major version of node comes out literally every six months. SIX MONTHS. MAJOR VERSION CHANGE. And you complained about python2 vs 3!

Typescript also has a garbage debugger compared to python.

There’s also just too many ways of doing things because the standard lib is thin. How many ways to loop over an object are there? For in, for each, object keys, lodash, underscore, object.entries, what am I forgetting?

Newer versions have stuff in the standard lib like Array.at, but if you’re targeting an older browser that won’t work unless you enter the wonderful world of transpiling and polyfills. And you thought virtualenv was bad??

And let’s not forget the language’s obsession with being async, even when you don’t expect or want it. How many hours have been lost because someone forgot to await response.json()?

Oh right and remember how there’s like six ways of declaring a function. The function keyword, when it’s in a class, and like four variations on arrow function syntax. And arrow functions are different than ones with the function keyword.

And lots of other little weird gotchas like

const foo = "hello";
const bar = { foo: "world"};

Go on. What do you think that object key is? The syntax is insane . You need to do { [foo]: “world”} to reference a variable as a key. Which looks like a list. Because typescript/javascript is kind of bad.

Typescript is used in the browser because that’s the only thing really supported there for front ends. It’s a horrible tool for anything else.

Almost every language has versions. Python’s is fairly stable. Python2 has been end of life for a few years now, and I don’t think there’s a python 4 even on the horizon.

Almost every language has dependency management. Use an IDE.

Use an IDE with refactor->rename. I’ve never had a problem with renaming. Right now when I went to see what it would do, it suggested correctly “did you mean [correct variable name]?”. But even without that it just says my class has no attribute with the incorrect name, which is about what I would expect. If you think these are bad error messages you should stay away from JavaScript.

Most languages running as admin can delete files. I don’t see how that’s a relevant critique of python.

I have such mixed emotions about Python. I have to concede its uses. Especially when working with data and data scientists. A lot of people use it. There is a good amount of existing code floating around that can be re-used, etc. Its never the first language I reach for, but I have to accept that a lot of people use it.

But OMG, I have had to re-install my OS more than once due to python versioning issues. Not recently sure, I think I have it figured out now with virtualenv and pyenv, but it literally has caused me to reformat twice after getting too deep into dependency version mismatch hell.