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Because one idea is that there’s nothing wrong with being trans, and the other idea is that trans people shouldn’t exist.

Fuck off.

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No one is saying that biological sex isn’t real, you’re making up a position that you’re arguing against.

If you want to actually understand, ask questions more than you make assumptions. Something simple like “How do you view biological sex?” would actually tell you something.

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All my respects sir but you can be the individual who thinks that, but a kind remind is that the majority of people who go out their way to debate trans problems are the very obnoxious conservatives, republicans, all fascist muck you find in southern states. Unfortunately the Venn diagram is heavily intertwined

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Trans people should exist, trans woman are men.

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Maybe you didn’t read the part about fucking off. Kindly do

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Because your idea of gender constructs is a 3 year old’s understanding of complex biology and cultural anthropology.

And those different ideas are fascist dog whistles.

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3 year old’s understanding

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Normal people just live their lives, the people who are heavily invested in this subject are either trans people themself or bigots. Are you this dense on purpose?

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Names are a construct that’s imagined too.

I’m imagining your name is something like “dickhead”

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I see this, and all the other comments taking it to be in support of the transphobes, but… it works equally for pro-trans against transphobia. Gender’s a construct; what makes it ok to judge people for not conforming to the “standard model” construct?

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Exactly, people should be able to live their lives without being judged for what gender they are or how they present.

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social constructs aren’t totally fake, they’re made “real” by social reinforcement. for example, in the 1940/50s it was expected of women that they were “weak”, and many who went out of line (by speaking up to their husbands, protesting, etc) were punished by being beaten or worse. the feminist and trans rights movements seek to eliminate the old roles and stereotypes assigned to gender to get rid of the real-world retaliation towards those deemed inferior. in contrast, those who seek to reinforce the old ways continue these systems of abuse.

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You can have any opinion you want as long as you keep it to yourself and don’t try to force anyone else to do what you want.

People can also have the opinion that you’re an asshole for the opinion that you hold.

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This attitude doesn’t work. It’s impossible to keep your opinion to yourself in some situations, like when you need to talk to someone who wants to be called by a certain pronoune, or when some decisions have to be made that affect multiple people.

We have to figure this out as a society and get people on board, there is no way around it.

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Society has figured it out. You’ll never be able to convince everyone though. The best that can be hoped for is that they just aren’t assholes.

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You can have any opinion you want as long as you keep it to yourself and don’t try to force anyone else to do what you want.

So you shouldn’t force someone to refer to you as they/them instead of using their natural language flow?

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Since when has singular they/them not been natural language flow? It’s been a common part of the English language foriterally hundreds of years. Shakespeare used it, but many before him did as well.

Your stupid arguments about things being “natural” are always missing (or ignoring on purpose) so much context. It makes no one want to take you seriously.

I’m a cis-gendered straight white man by the way. I’m not asking anyone to treat me differently from the way I’ve always been treated, but I think others deserve the same respect for the way they want to be treated. If you want to disrespect others who have done nothing wrong then you don’t deserve respect.

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And what about language flow would you call “natural”? You’re aware of the fact that there are many other languages besides English, aren’t you? In most of them neither he or she or they are even words! Nothing natural at all. It’s just habitual.

Would you call Muhammad Ali Cassius Clay? Would you claim doing so would not not be offensive?

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Yeah, now read that really slowly

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Would you like to explain what your issue is so I can elaborate? Maybe your reading comprehension is just poor because I didn’t say anything contradictory in my comment.

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