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I think co2 ghgs global warming is by far the biggest environmental catastrophe coming our way. So the most important factor will be how will it impact co2 emissions.

As I said, we should make alternatives to driving in cities as quickly as we can. But that will still take a while. What are you suggesting in the mean time? Not going places?

EVs are much better than gas for minimizing co2 emissions. I think we should encourage them as a transitional solution till we have trains and walkable or bikeable cities.

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I think we should encourage them as a transitional solution till we have trains and walkable or bikeable cities.

This is my problem. I don’t think we’ll ever reach that point when we accept half-solutions. It wouldn’t take more than a single decade to uproot our city design if we had any ambition left, but alas.

Our disagreement is that I think the societal cost of cars is more than you think, not that I think electric cars are a bad transitional step. But I also think that we live under an economic model that will kick, fight and scream the whole time we try to uproot such a massive portion of it, being the oil industry. It’s possible we just can’t fix it at this point except by radical change. I don’t have ultimate solutions, I’m just wary of electric cars because lithium mining is just as bad as oil drilling from a different direction and electric cars will kill just as many kids in the street as combustion cars.

By all means make electric vehicles- just please not cars.

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So should we not leave our homes for years? I don’t see what you’re proposing.

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Are you telling me that I, who have never owned a car in my life, are unable to leave my house? Just because you got used to your car doesn’t mean it’s the only method of transportation. If it is the only method of transportation where you live, then, and I am sorry this is the case, but you could advocate for something better instead of giving up and accepting status quo.

I am advocating specifically for the removal of policy that hinder the progress of alternative transportation. Electric cars would be fine if it was not for the fact that they are part of the policies that postpone or, in most cases, shut down alternative transportation. The inevitably city-redesign can is kicked down the road, becoming increasingly expensive as the years tack on. The best time to do something about this was 30 years ago.

Electric cars will not save the planet. Electric cars will save the car industry.

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