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122 points

In my defense, my 13 year old car died earlier this year and I needed a new car fast. I was completely unaware these systems had gotten as bad as they have until after I bought it.

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I figured we’re not going to have much choice in the future. We’ll be driving cars under End User License Agreements that already send tons and tons of data about us back to the manufacturers.

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101 points

As much as I love technology, I hate the way it is being used. Car companies don’t make enough money selling cars so they need to collect and sell driver data? It’s dystopian.

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77 points

They make plenty of money, they just want more money

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Capitalism requires obtaining more capital than ever every quarter or you’ve failed as a company. They’re getting to the point they have to violate the customers privacy in order to chaise ever growing profits

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14 points

But thats rhe name of the game, enough is never enough.

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In US, maybe. But in EU things are already regulated enough that this can be avoided to a degree. It’s not there yet, but EC doesn’t like shit like this. We already have GDPR and forced separate warranties for hardware and software, ensuring you can fuck around with the latter without voiding warranty on the former. But at some point I fully expect some manufacturer to give you a kill switch from GSM modem and call it a feature, then everyone else will follow.

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Don’t you love it when it makes you read a disclaimer and click “accept” literally every time you get into the car if you want to use your infotainment center? Who’s the asshole who came up with that brilliant idea? Whoever he is, fuck him!

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I suspect that’s a hedge against getting sued for one reason or another. The disclaimer always seems to be designed to absolve the manufacturer if you, e.g., follow the GPS until you drive into a lake.

But! The one on my boss’ Tacoma he just bought dismisses itself after the vehicle has been in motion about 5 seconds, though. I think that rather defeats the purpose. (What it dismisses to in this case is a nag screen begging you to subscribe to the navigation “service,” which he has not done. That sort of thing really makes me want to see about where to buy a cruise missile.)

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Ah the good ol minivan motor Tacomas. They don’t make ‘em like they used to

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7 points

My Subaru and every other car I’ve been in the disclaimer goes away if you don’t click it. I have clicked accept in two years.

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Our Honda puts up a notice that essentially says “I understand that I need to keep my eyes on the road”. Yeah, no shit, Honda. But what’s dumb is that it won’t go away until you tap accept, so it ends up causing you to have to take your eyes off the road and pay attention to this stupid disclaimer screen if you forget to close it before you start driving.

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It depends on the manufacturer. My Hyundai infotainment system is great. The only problem I have is that it likes to randomly connect my wife’s phone instead of mine about 5% of the time.

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Hey friend, you are not the one who needs a defense, IMO-- You’re just the end user caught up in the nonsense. Enjoy your new car as best you can, and just make decisions that make the most sense for you.

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-8 points

There are electric cars built by corporate oligarchs that are not Nazis. More disconcerting you missed that memo.

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Unfortunately, in the US at least, there’s very little choice. If we’re only counting new electric cars(not SUVs) in the low end, there’s basically only Tesla, Chevrolet, Nissan, and Hyundai. Some of the least reliable manufacturers with frequent recalls. And Tesla 3 has the most range and tech out of those for a similar price.

When you get to the $50k+ range, then you have a lot more options with all the high end luxury brands like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc., offering EVs.

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5 points

Sure. I’m upvoting you for accuracy, but anyone buying Musk’s products at this point is knowingly investing in and supporting his ideologies.

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Polestar? Though their next model (3) is going to be an SUV.

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