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What about the middle class that relies on stocks to retire? If you aren’t aware, retirement accounts are usually mostly stocks, do we tax the middle class retirement money?

I think your last paragraph is pretty telling, just blindly supporting anything that hurts billionaires simply because they are billionaires, no matter how unfair or unjust it is, or even his bad the consequences would be for the country.

I think there is a reason the most successful companies are from the US, you would have them move their bushes elsewhere that’s more supportive of their size?

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It would be worthless if half the ideas in this thread were enacted. Luckily they won’t be and tons of middle class people will be able to retire thanks to the stock market.

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Or maybe it’s because we are big companies to exist without taxing or regulating them out of business.

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Obviously I don’t want to fuck over retirees, so it should be a progressive tax, since those retirement accounts don’t reach 8 figures, let alone 10 to 12.

I was pretty careful in my phrasing about it hurting billionaires specifically rather than hurting a larger swath of the population that included billionaires. Given that, I don’t think it would hurt “the country” very much at all, and indeed benefit the country because billionaires are a perpetual malus on us.

I think there is a reason the most successful companies are from the US,

There are several reasons, and I think you probably aren’t adequately accounting for the US being the global hegemon and engaging in brutal imperial exploitation as being chief among them. The US literally goes to war using the most over-funded military in the world for the sake of oil companies. It backs juntas to get cheap deals on lithium. It authors puppet governments for fucking bananas.

Regarding capital flight: It’s awesome if billionaires want to flee. If they try, seize everything from them. They play ball or fuck off, no need to accommodate them playing God.

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Even a progressive tax is going to fuck over retirees, unless you are suggesting 0% below like $10M. Even then they are still paying taxes either when they put the money in or when they take it out, so taxing on the value is just double tax dipping.

So you are actually suggesting if billionaires want to move we steal everything from them? How is that even remotely ok?

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Even a progressive tax is going to fuck over retirees, unless you are suggesting 0% below like $10M. Even then they are still paying taxes either when they put the money in or when they take it out, so taxing on the value is just double tax dipping.

Retirement funds are still not going to exceed like 5 million in the vast majority of cases, but sure! Let’s have it be marginal below 10M, that’s fine with me. The petite bourgeois should mainly be targeted with things like higher taxes on housing they rent out, and that’s really a secondary concern in most places.

So you are actually suggesting if billionaires want to move we steal everything from them? How is that even remotely ok?

Yes, I am. It’s as easy as “don’t engage in capital flight” to not get hit by it. We can even be generous enough to leave them just a tiny bit, say 1% if they have exactly 1B, since 10M is quite a lot for a human.

Why should they be entitled to gut factories where they used the labor supply and infrastructure to make their money, destroying the local economy and putting many people out of work? “Property rights”? This is going to blow your mind: human welfare is more important than the property rights of people who are richer than God and could get by in insane comfort while never working a day for the rest of their lives anyway.

If I had to weigh the wholesale destruction of communities against John Locke feeling disappointed, I’ll gladly accept the latter and travel to England to piss on his grave.

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