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UBI is socialism? Without any price caps on goods and services it just gives capitalists another excuse to raise prices.

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what. Social programs are not socialism

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That’s not true. You’re thinking of social programs. Socialism is when workers own the means of production.

If this was socialism, America would have already done a military coup in Denver.

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Socialism, in an extreme simplification, is a mode of political and economic organisation in which the workers own the means of production, and receive the full value of their labour. While social welfare programs are often attached to that, they are not socialism in and of themselves, nor are they a prerequisite to socialism (but it is nice to have).

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That isnt socialism, the proletariat doesn’t control the means of production.

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I think you are confusing socialism with communism.

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Are you in a political organization that is explicitly socialist? Have you read any literature by any notable socialist author?

I know the answer to both is no. Because I know you’re confusing yourself as someone who is informed about what socialism and communism are.

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Love too go down to the government store and order an extra large socialism

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Yh a lot of mfers on this site need to actually read some theory.

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99.999999999% of the homeless are homeless because they don’t have enough money.

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That is pretty much bullshit. From a brother in law that died of substance abuse and another I house for same reason, nearly every homeless person I have met has had some type of substance abuse. Being you are making that claim, do you have a source to back it up?

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Depends where you are.

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It’s not like it’s that expensive to determine who’s homeless because they don’t have money. Solving homelessness isn’t a single golden bullet.

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You read the first study? The money was not given to those that has substance abuse, mental health symptoms or alcohol abuse because they felt they represented a small portion of the homeless. Was given to people that were sleeping in friends house and some in cars and didn’t abuse alcohol or drugs. That is a joke of an experiment and in no ready ubi. Not does it indicate on any meaningful way how it is paid for as it doesn’t include everyone.

The second study found only 3/4 of the people continued to work and ultimately the 150 million dollar program was cancelled because it did not appear to increase contribution to society in any economic way.

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