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If people aren’t forced to work to live then how can I get cheap labor for my shitty business that my dad gave me?

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11 points

Raise their rent

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Which we all know would happen IMMEDIATELY in lockstep with any widespread rollout of UBI, and any complaint would be met with half the country screeching “FREE MARKET REEEEEE”

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Guess we better institute rent controls first then

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38 points

If people have UBI, you can get away with paying less though. That’s how walmart does it; just encourage your workers to get welfare so they stay alive enough to work more

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And that’s honestly my proposal for it. Basically, create something like UBI (my preference is NIT) that ensures everyone is over the poverty level, eliminate minimum wage, and have benefits phase out for some reasonable definition of “living wage” (say, 2x the poverty level, maybe 3x).

Working would never make you worse off, and people wouldn’t feel obligated to take crappy jobs if the pay isn’t there.

We could also eliminate many other forms of welfare at the same time and just increase benefits accordingly.

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The only benefits that I think would have to stay, are those with “unlimited” downside, like healthcare.

UBI can potentially replace specific benefits for housing or general living expenses, but it can’t really replace healthcare.

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