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I hear this argument a lot.

And following your thread. How would you suggest Palestinians free themselves from the prison they’re all living in?

Or should they just be content with their lot?

Conflict is messy. People die. The nature of assymetric warfare necessitates a specific kind of fighting. And that’s what this is, really. Unless the Palestinians have bunkers full of modern military hardware they can use to go toe to toe with Israel with.

But maybe there’s a better way. So what is it?

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Killing 250 civilians by targeting a music festival and slitting the throats of civilians on the street and spitting on their corpses isn’t a result of conflict being “messy”. Stop justifying deliberate and systematic terrorist activity

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Yes it is.

Assymetric warfare is ugly as fuck because it has to be. And this conflict is assymetric as hell.

Both sides are trying to demoralize the enemy to gain what they want. War is diplomacy when all other methods have failed after all.

Unless Israel or the =est of the world wants to give Palestine an enormous cache of high tech weaponry they’ll fight like this because because it’s one of the few ways for them TO fight.

So they commit atrocities and Israel commits atrocities and round and round it goes

Saying war is messy is one of those things. Like “friendly fire”. Like all language describing all forms of war it fails utterly to convey the senselessness and inhumanity of the darkest parts of our nature.

There are no good sides of bad sides in this conflict. Each side is both, and the bitter reality is that a state of war or armed conflict is by its very nature atrocious. There’s just the desd, the living. And those who have been left behind.

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First thing they need to do is depose the terrorists organisation they willingly put in charge. I imagine negotiations would go smoother then.

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The better way is to not make memes they fully blame only one side.

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Your first sentence captures it. All of this is driven by ignorance and religion, it’s the same shit that’s plagued that part of the world for generations

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You don’t think the massive poverty, starvation, and lack of access to water and sanitation might play into it too?

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