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I’m not a trump supporter but I’m also not a sensationalism supporter. He made an analogy in his post, “he gave out a traffic ticket instead of a death sentence.” Now we accept that the sentence given by the judge was not a traffic ticket, but we insist that the death sentence part was meant literally? Now honestly, I hate Trump as much as anyone but honest, accurate, and irrefutable criticisms are going to get us farther than stretches of sensational word-twisting.

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The problem here is there’s a sub-group of Trump supporters who will read this and think “yeah, someone should just take out Hunter Biden, that will send a real message”. And there’s a sub-group of that group that will possibly try to do it.

Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.

He was trying to get the metal detectors removed from the Jan 6 rally because “they’re not here to hurt me”. This indicates he knew people would try to come armed and that they intended to hurt someone, just not him.

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Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.

There’s no “possibly”. He is proud of it, and he’s attempted to directly call for violence on multiple occasions since 1/6. Fortunately, it only actually worked the one time. But it did permanently force everybody to take his calls to violence seriously since he only needs one well-armed MAGA moron to do some serious damage, and his base has proven that there are plenty of people out there waiting for that call.

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He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking. A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.

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He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking.

This is actually one of the traits I wish more members of our government had. We don’t need or want big, fancy political doublespeak. Just tell us like it is like we’re regular people.

The problem isn’t that Trump speaks colloquially or off-the-cuff. The problem is that he’s …

A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.

Give me someone who can speak like Trump but has the intelligence and desire to work for the people like AOC or Bernie Sanders and I wouldn’t be able to throw my money towards their election campaign fast enough.

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I fail to see any example of Trump’s speech patterns that are ideal. AOC speaks far more intelligently, and without doublespeak, than Trump ever could.

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While I get what you’re saying, Trump benefits far too much from not literally saying things, but letting his supporters run wild with what he’s implying.

It’s no different from when he starts a rumor by saying “People have been telling me…” followed by some shit he just made up about an opponent. He gets to claim immunity from being the one that starts the rumor while at the same time putting it out there for his supporters to grab onto.

The question is, do you believe that he wants his supporters to think he literally wants the death penalty for Hunter Biden?

If the answer is yes, then he shouldn’t be defended in any way.

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im well past giving this gaping void of humanity the benefit of the doubt.

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Of course he deliberately mentioned the death sentence to put associations into the skulls of his radicalised extremist cultist base. Haven’t you been alive for the last 7 years?

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The problem here, I think is, is that Trump does stuff like this all the time. He says things that are absurd, or outlandish and people always say “he’s joking”, “don’t take everything he says literally”, but at what point do you take him literally?

You think for one second if he had won in 2020 he wouldnt be trying to run for reelection again? Or trying to declare himself president for life? He said multiple times his first term shouldnt count because they spied on his campaign or the impeachments. He said the US should try president for life as China had done during his term. Trump also praised Rodrigo Duterte who encouraged murdering drug users/pushers.

We can stick to facts all we want but the one thing we should do, is believe Trump when he says something.

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You’re trying to apply logic to an illogical person. That’s where we went wrong in 2016.

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Yeah I’m going to block this community if something like this comes up on my feed again.

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Don’t let the door hit you where god split you. Bye Kevin.

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