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Hamas are animals. Abducting children and internationals. These last few days have shown they do not deserve sympathy. Watching Palestinians cheer when rockets get launched just proves my point.

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So instead you are cheering when civilians on the other side are being killed. Great logic. I hope you feel morally superior and can sleep better at night.

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Where did he cheer that Palestinian civilians got killed?

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One simple rule to achieve peace and stability is diplomatic talk. You don’t use violence as answer.

Attacking civilians is also plain and simple terrorism. Hamas proved with this action they are not worth more than terrorists.

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Attacking civilians is also plain and simple terrorism

So we’re in agreement that this is essentially two terrorist states fighting each other? And the biggest losers in all of this will be the innocent Israeli and Palestinian citizens who just want to live their lives in peace. Meanwhile Hamas and the Israeli state get to go back and forth playing the their sick game of race-to-the-bottom-of-the-morality-barrel trying to blow each other to smithereens.

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One simple rule to achieve peace and stability is diplomatic talk.

Yeah if it was that simple the region would have peace already. Israel has never seriously considered peace as anything than something to avoid. See: How they funded Hamas in the 90s to take steam out of the Palestinian peace movement.

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A popular myth, but a myth nonetheless.

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Cutting off food, water and electricity for 2.3 million people.

I wonder if people notice the irony of Israel recreating the Warsaw ghetto.

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So that justifies deliberately targeting civilians? Israel is no better than Hamas.

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Yeah, lots of Palestinian music festivals attacked recently, eh?

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They have been horrifically oppressed for decades.

They have lived in constant fight for your life squalor while America keeps siphoning money and weapons to Israel, who, in turn, simply tortures Palestine.

I dont condone it, but I can’t bring myself to fake outrage or surprise.

America caused this.

America needs to stop funding terrorists (Israel). It only breeds more terrorists (Hamas).

And at the end of the day, that was the point.

There is another armed conflict for American military contractors to cash in on.

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America needs to stop funding terrorists (Israel). It only breeds more terrorists (Hamas).

Add to your list that Israel actively funded Hamas in the 90s to take the steam out of the Palestinian peace movement.

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If the same kind of pressure being put on Hamas was put on the Israeli authorities, the problem with Palestine would’ve been over long ago, just like Appartheid in South Africa has made to end by international pressure, not because the assholes in power in SA woke up one day and decided to the do the morally right thing.

As long as Israel gets to keep its boot on the necks of Palestinians (worse, activelly helped to do so), there will always be people who are born and grow with nothing to lose for whom even an organisation internationally treated as a terrorist organisation is still a step up.

I totally agree it’s the US who have maintained this situation, and I also want to add Europe, whose leaders have sided with Israel or assumed the kind of “neutrality” that “peace loving” “tankies” assume with regards to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (i.e. not wanting to help Ukraine).

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What are you insinuating?

As far as I know Palestinians have rejected every Offer they have received and only went for the whole destruction of Israel.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Your worldview is so fucked up. The reason Israel gets support is because if it didn’t, the surrounding Arab nations would have wiped it out, as they have said multiple times.

It’s like a bully attacks a little kid, and the little kid’s older brother shows up to defend him, and then you saying, “the older brother caused this because he wouldn’t let the bully beat up that little kid!”

You’ve got it all backwards man. Get help.

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When the little brother starts slaughtering all of the innocent people who “are totally all bullies” and bombing their homes with impunity for 40 years with virtually no consequence, somewhere over those 40 years, the brothers became the bullies in the neighborhood.

Start using your brain big boy.

Stop regurgitating what Fox tells you to.

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Here is a list of peace offers which would grant the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

1937 - Peel commission, rejected

1947 - Partition resolution, rejected

2000 - Camp David, rejected

2001 - Taba, rejected. Arafat starts the second intifada and a year later changes his mind.

2008 - Olmert offer, rejected

Here’s a video (in the article) where the chief palestinian negotiator explains what was offered in 2008. Hamas have tried to agree to boundaries Despite media attempts to portray it as a new Hamas charter, it is not. The new ‘policy document’ accepts the creation of a Palestinian state in 1967 borders, but still rejects Israel and claims its territory. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103

Here are some other noteworthy peace meeting or proposals from Israel to the rest if the Arab world, which were rejected

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.

1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.

1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.

1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected

1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.

1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.

1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.

1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).

1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).

1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.

2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.

2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.

2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.

2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.

2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

Not gonna link Trump’s imbecilic peace plan as an example.

Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -

None

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If you treat a bunch of people like animals for long enough, what do you think will happen?

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