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21 points
  • yeah no headphone jack is a bummer
  • a used pixel is cheaper than than
  • my pixel 5 seems pretty small, but idk what they are now or what that is so you’re probably right
  • even bigger bummer than no headphone jack imo
  • I don’t think those are that important, a piece of tape over the camera is fine imo
  • you’re probably right there too, I wish fairphone could run grapheneos 😞
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Fairphones have no secure element. The devs may be annoying, but what they dont do for a second is waste time.

Hmm, camera maybe but tape? Also microphone is not that easy. GPS, phone antennas and internet antennas are also way shadier

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Fairphone uses the latest snapdragon. Unless qualcomm messed up, their processors do support and have supported secure element for a while. What you probably meant was a dedicated secure element chip. That’s present on tensor but not on most other smartphones.

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Fairphone uses Qualcomm snapdragon chips but they don’t use chips made for mobile phones, it’s chips for industrial use they buy, so the secure element might be missing. The reason is: they are supported for way longer which allows fairphone such long update periods. The shortlist of other phonemakers who can do the same are the ones who design their own chips: Google, Samsung, Apple.

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I wasn’t meaning to fault the grapheneos devs, like you said it’s fairphones fault for not making it possible 😞

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How is a security element wasting time?

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Huh? GrapheneOS is not wasting time with features or supporting phones that are not secure to their standards (meaning basically impossible to hardware-crack, which is NOT everyones requirement)

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I wish fairphone could run grapheneos

They get this request a lot, see this: https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/1961

and this.

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Yep, my point was shaking my fist at fairphone, not the grapheneos devs

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