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War is horrible and the granparents of today’s Palestinians were unjustly hunted and hurt. But if Hamas had not gone on slaughter spree on civilians and their fighters would not be hiding behind their their own kids and women to protect themselves from retaliation, maybe the fight would take place strictly between combatants or even better, on the social media and internet to show what’s wrong.
And no, it doesn’t matter whether kid is EU, Arabian or any other looking. When there was earthquake not long ago, everyone was sympathetic with middle east looking kids being pulled out of debris.

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There’s been an earthquake just a few days ago in Afghanistan, Pakistan etc, killing more than 2000 people, and by your comment I can see you don’t even know about it.

And I was arguing against Hamas immediately after it happened, but now I’m arguing against Israel because the original comment is right, they have now adjusted all their propaganda tools to use the events to justify ethnic cleansing with lots of civilian dead right now.

Gazan women and children are not responsible for “their fighters” or Hamas, just as Israeli women and children are not responsible for bombs falling on Gaza.

I’m disgusted with both, but proportionally to their strength.

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just as Israeli women

They could be part of IDF as military service is mandatory for every israeli whatever the gender (~3y for men and 2y for women).

so don’t speak in term of gender but in term of class.

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Strictly speaking, there are very few women in the combat units of the IDF.

But yes, you understood me correctly. I meant civilians.

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You missed my point or are trying to twist it.
I have not said that world is informed about everything that happens everywhere all the time. I have said that people feel sad for any hurt kid regardless of colour of their skin and I gave an example which you totally ignored. I could very well blame you for bad things happening to the kids in Mexico or Latin America in general if you aren’t informed about that but that would be stupid wouldn’t it?

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The feel sad on different levels. For some kinds of sad billions of military aid are warranted, and for other kinds of sad thoughts and prayers, and there are even situations of “sad, but they had it coming”.

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The “human shields” reasoning has been circulating for at least a decade. “Look, we had to kill the civilians, the militants were hiding behind them!” I don’t know on what planet that reasoning is supposed to be acceptable.

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War or killing is never acceptable. Unfortunately in this case it seems less of the two evils due to Hammas making sure everyone can see what atrocities they are capable off instead of showing world what Palestinians hardship is like.

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Its 2023, we catch the American government trying to cover this shit up all the time https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/18/us/airstrikes-pentagon-records-civilian-deaths.html

Why are so many people willing to believe “Hamas uses human shields” without even a shred of evidence? How is acceptable to keep funding and arming Israel when there is no accountability for how they use those weapons?

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Can you prove they are not? Like where in the Gaza is their military base e.g. ? If they aren’t mixed in Civilian where the hell are they? Also acts like murdering kids don’t really add them any credibility. To me it looks rather that their fighting tactics is trying to exploit the fact that enemy is not so willing to shoot at civilians as they are to shoot combatants.

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Hamas had not gone on slaughter spree on civilians

Israel has killed 22x more Palestinians than Isralies have died from all pro-Palestine groups https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

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And Germans caused WW2 that had mutliple times higher dead count than all Palestinians together. Yet I don’t see countries like Polland going terrorist against German civilians. The way you think is best, (kill as many children as brutal as possible) will only lead to more casaulties but it won’t make life any better for Palestina’s civilians.

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