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Damn, 1948 was a thousand years ago? Time is weird, I guess.

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If you want to just count recent history, jews started buying land and returning to Palestine in the late 1800s. They started flooding in after some anti-semitic pogroms in the early 20th century and things have been spicy since.

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Those Jews were not interested in a Jewish state in Palestine. That didn’t come until political Zionism in the interwar period.

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Even before that there was some violence between the communities, which is what I was referring to.

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Do you think the region of Palestine and Arabs/Jews were created in 1948?

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This isn’t a conflict that was going on in the Ottoman period. This is a recent conflict and this attempt to turn it into a thousands year old religious war is bullshit. This is a colonial project where the goal is to take land. Very material in nature. That project has been in place since 1948.

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Are you arguing that Jews have no right to be in Jerusalem and the surrounding areas? I am pro for a two state solution. But that means that one is Israel and the other one in Palestine.

The region that is now Israel might have been Palestine before 1948, but only because Arabic inhabitants of the area kicked Jews out, which started the Diaspora, which ultimately lead to the holocaust.

Both Partys have the right to be in that area, which means that only a two state solution can bring peace in the longterm.

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Debatable. The people who think it’s a millennia-long feud are counting from when the Romans threw the Israelites out of Israel according to the Bible. For them, protecting Israel at all costs is a religious thing, and their religion has existed for millennia, so 💁

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The region of Israel was created in 1948 by stealing Palestinian land to give to white European Jews. It’s not a religious conflict, it’s European colonialism

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Became a religious conflict after PLO collapsed and was replaced by Iran-alligned goons. They match the orthodox Jews who claim that a good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

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