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57 points

It’s really not the fault of any individual. Well okay yes it is, but it’s like 200 individuals at the very upper echelons of society.

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14 points

Are we gonna ignore that literally everyone voted for Reagan in the 80s?

Except based Minnesota? Weird.

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Wow. This looks like USSR, but worse

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No more than we will never forget that Trump is the president that millenials voted for.

At least if we’re using ‘generational blame’ logic: good luck on explaining how you let trump in to the future generations.

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9 points

“Trump lost the popular vote, kids. The Electoral College allows for small states to have oversized impacts on presidential elections.”

There you go.

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Voting for Trump was highly correlated with age. Every age group under 40 had over 50% support for Clinton; every age group above had a plurality voting for Trump.

In the 1980 election, though, the only age range that voted more for Carter than Reagan was 18-24 year olds.

And unlike Trump, Reagan convincingly won the popular vote - he got 8 million more votes than Carter. Trump lost the popular vote.

Those two elections aren’t really comparable. Reagan won in a landslide; Trump barely sqeaked by because he barely won a few key swing states - in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, he won by less than 1% of the vote.

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So, are we going to do something about that? Did we just whoopsi 200 bad people in the upper echelons of society? I think some systemic analysis is needed.

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It’s the fault of many individuals, voting and acting together.

In the US, when you look at the end use of e.g. electricity, 29% of emissions are due to transportation, 30% are industrial, 11% is agriculture, and the other 30% is from commercial and residential.

Over 50% of transportation emissions are cars, SUVs, minivans and pickups. Why? Because the US suburbanized and we bulldozed cities to build wide roads and large parking lots.

That’s partially due to people like Robert Moses, and partially due to things like white flight, Euclidean zoning, single family zoning, etc. The greatest generation, the silent generation and boomers have repeatedly voted for and implemented local NIMBY policies that have resulted in car centric suburban sprawl that’s terrible for the planet.

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Yes, but they had no information about the negative aspects of those policies due to marketing and outright lies they were exposed to from propaganda, published by those 200 [hyperbole] people who were actually responsible.

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