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Except it literally is the fault of like 30 people. We can directly pinpoint the cause of the problem onto the actions of specific individuals.

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Money isn’t real. The government isn’t real. Those two things are made real by belief. Everyone made a choice to believe in those two things.

If you spent the 80s working for communist orgs then you’re not guilty, but everyone else who did nothing during Reagan and Thatcher deserves the hate.

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I lived in a socialist state (GDR) as a small child (and my parents all their lifes until the state disolved). The government destroyed nature just as much, if not more.

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That has no bearing on what I said.

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And the CCP actively denied climate change as a means for the West to stop their modernization until the last decade or so.

Industrialization was a priority for most Marxist-Leninist based states because that was considered the best means of both defending themselves from the “NATO aggression” and, in theory, increasing quality of life.

It’s a relatively recent trend that ecological conservationism and climate action has become a major actual leftist talking point. Obviously you could find individuals who were concerned but the governments are largely M-L and simply didn’t care that much compared to building industry.

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We may have made that choice, but there are some pretty sure consequences if you don’t go along at least a teeny bit.

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Communism isn’t a magic wand to excuse blame.

Grow up and realise communist countries extract and burn petroleum.

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The Haudenosaunee did not use petroleum.

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Everyone else could have voted for regulation to prevent them from doing those things. You can’t just expect corporations to not do evil if you allow them to. They’re heavily incentivized by the system to be as evil as possible. The solution is to limit the amount of evil they’re allowed to do.

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