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I’m voting yes, and i have tried to help people see why it’s a good thing, but when people call me racist for saying I’m in the yes camo, i know that far too many are just morons who have no critical thinking, or ability to tell what is a good source of information.

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Adding a new governmental body that is open to only one racial group is racist and it is also undemocratic.

Your vote is well intentioned its just poorly informed. You’ve been propagandised.

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You idiots have the same repeated talking points and they are just plain wrong.

In late 2023, Australians will have their say in a referendum on whether to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia in the Constitution through an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Not just one group, but two. And they are not racial you fuckwit, they are geographical and historical groupings.

Cultures have value and our First Nations are owed a debt. We live on their lands, we benefit from their experience. We owe them so much and this is just a vote for First Nations to be formally represented in parliament.

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They’re not racial groups? Are you fucking kidding me? You absolute Muppet.

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…casually failing to mention that the “one racial group” are the traditional land owners who lost their land and 50,000 year-old culture due to colonisation.

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And what does that have to do with our modern (and future) Democratic nation?

None of us took anything from any others of us. Its a totally irrelevant point.

We can’t go around changing g the fundamental nature of democracy because of historical tragedies or in 15 minutes we’ll be back to fucking tribalism and feudal lords.

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This is always an interesting one - who is “propagandising” us, and what do they have to gain from their significant investment in advancing this agenda?

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Well I mean, have you researched the issue, analyzed it, and developed your own position based on evidence?

Or are you just listening to what comes out of the TV?

If you get your opinions from someone who hands them to you fully formed (like Voice good, no voice racist) then that is propaganda, not information.

As to your second question - a: politicians scoring points and winning elections; and b: a whole lot of people who get a hand in deciding laws and economic decisions for their own special group.

And before you bang out the line about lobby groups all having a say already - yes of course we should fuck those off as well because they too are undemocratic corruption

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No matter how many downvotes you get on Lemmy you still have the majority of your countrymen on your side so at the end of the day you still win.

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Which is a damn shame too cos most tkof them are doing because they’re just as uninformed as the yes side.

Its fucking brexit all over again.

Some discussion and informed decision making wouldn’t go astray, but its a bit fucking late now

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