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Yeah, weā€™re not giving up our dairy any time soon lol.

No one is keen on experimenting with Basundi or Rasmalai without milk.

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They have made dairy using a bacteria recently, so animal free dairy may be a thing soon.

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If they can make animal-free cheddar and animal-free yogurt that tastes exactly like the real thing, sign me up. Right now, vegan alternatives areā€¦ not good.

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Iā€™ve tried a few types of coconut-based yogurts that were tasty. Iā€™m not a fan of almond milk, so didnā€™t like those varieties as much. On the cheeses though, completely agree! I had one that was tolerable, but definitely falls in the ā€œnot goodā€ category.

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Yes, this is why I think we take the wrong approach considering things as animal free substitutes. Thatā€™s a high bar.

Meanwhile Iā€™m perfectly happy dipping my veggies in hummus instead of cheese dip. Not as a substitute but as a different choice that is good on its own merit

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Brave Robot! I tried it recently, it was good!

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I saw a milk that claims to be just that on the shelves. Incredibly expensive and (from what I hear) nowhere near the same taste.

The problem is that animals and plants do ā€œwhat they doā€ with incredible efficiency. If you want to do exactly what some evolved thing does best, you probably cannot come close to matching it with technology. A century of aircraft design and planes are not in the same league as birds regarding flight efficiency.

If animal-free milk goes the path that animal-free meat is, they may well be reaching the upper bounds of efficiency already, nowhere near close enough to replace natural animal and dairy.

Which is a bit of a shame (as a meat-eater). I think having outside competition that could truly stand on its own would help reduce the corruption of big ag.

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If you want to do exactly what some evolved thing does best, you probably cannot come close to matching it with technology.

Not necessarily true - evolution (and simulating evolution) is great at finding local maxima/minima, but not as great at moving out of those in the case where the local min/max is not the global min/max. So, for example, birds might not be the optimal way to do flight efficiency, but between birds and optimal flight efficiency if thereā€™s a region of worse flight efficiency of any real size (more than you could vault in a couple generations of lucky mutations) then evolution will never find it because the intermediate steps to get there will be selected against too heavily to jump the gap.

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Man I havenā€™t tried Basundi, is it available in Haryana by any chance?

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I donā€™t know man, Iā€™m from Mumbai. Check on swiggy for restaurants in your area.

Or you can make it on you own. The recipe is simple, it just takes long time to make because you need to boil milk to make it thicker.

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