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-60 points

Even better, look into non-BEV choices. Hydrogen cars are now a thing. But people are just weirdly desiring of a BEV monopoly, with themselves as the ultimate loser.

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Why would you want a hydrogen car and still be dependent on gas stations? I’d rather just charge at home using solar panels.

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Also, Hydrogen is notoriously hard to nail down in the sourcing - Green is great, blue not so much as it means there’s more fossil fuel production somewhere in it’s creation. This has led to Denmark pulling back on it’s investment in hydrogen infrastructure and closing it’s stations. https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/hydrogen-vehicles-in-denmark-left-without-fuel-as-all-commercial-refuelling-stations-shuttered/2-1-1519914

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14 points

Perhaps people who only have on street parking, and therefore find it difficult/impossible to charge at home.

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Have no direct experience but from what I saw on YouTube videos, filling an hydrogen tank seems to take a similar amount of time to charge from 30 to 80% a car at a fast 150kw station

Except that you’re forced to fill always at 100% and because it requires an operator for security it’s not available 24/7

Maybe it’s better for a freight truck as it would require the electricity of a small town to recharge with those megawatt charger connectors

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Maybe it depends on where you live, but plenty of city street parking with a charger here, not as cheap as using your own solar energy, but still pretty cheap compared to gasoline.

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-34 points

Hydrogen is made from water. It too can be made from solar panels. Though probably from some kind of more centralized system than everyone with their own solar panels.

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yeah the reason you’re getting these downvotes:

water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. it can be split through electrolysis into it’s components through the addition of electricity.

if baseband solar had the capacity you could power electrolysis production of hydrogen and it’s been proposed in a few places where solar is cheap and land is available.

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-1 points

Science!

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19 points

I like the idea of EVs because I (and a lot of other people here in California) have a solar system that produces more electricity than what I need day-to-day, so charging the car is effectively free. I don’t have an EV yet but will probably buy one next year.

I really like like the Ioniq 5 and 6, but it’s kinda ugly at the front and back. I just want an EV that looks like a car, not some futuristic-looking thing.

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Don’t you get paid for that extra electricity?

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I do but the rate is very low.

The cost of electricity in summer is around $0.45/kWh in peak times and $0.37/kWh in off-peak times. I get 1:1 credits for excess generation, so any overproduction during the day can offset usage at night or on cloudy days.

However, if I have credits left at the yearly true-up, they’re only cashed out at around $0.04/kWh. There’s more value in using the credits rather than cashing them out.

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-19 points

FCEVs basically mean the same thing, and it will be viable for everyone and not just the rich.

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14 points

Batteries are only getting cheaper and I have never seen a hydrogen station or even vehicle in my entire life.

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13 points

A monopoly is not when a technology is more popular than another technology.

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-7 points

They are aiming to ban all alternatives, or create subsidies in such way that only one idea can exist. That is consistently with a monopoly.

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No, it’s not. A monopoly is a market situation in which a single entity controls the supply of a product or service. A government can be a monopolist. For instance in many countries the government owns the railway company.

You’re describing regulation. That’s a whole different topic.

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10 points

This is confidently incorrect.

The real answer you were looking for was PHEV.

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ahh yes, hydrogen. They are standing all around at the dealers waiting to be bought. hm? what? you mean Mercedes did still not manage to fulfill the promise of like 2003 of hydrogen car series in 2023?

I know what you are saying and I also like the idea, but BEV are much less complicated and way more adult yet.

Why not both though? and add phev in the mix?

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-6 points

In the short-term, all types of cars will exist including PHEVs. It is the BEV fanatic that is trying to eliminate all alternatives.

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