Comment by Dekthro@lemm.ee on Microsoft now pops up a poll asking why you'd want to use another browser when you download Chrome

Just use Firefox. Skip all this bullshit.

Just use Linux and Firefox. Skip all this bullshit.

I came to say just this…

Why is the person downloading chrome in the first place. Firefox with ghostery and ublock origin is the way forward

Ghostery is redundant with total cookie protection

Is total cookie protection on Android? Is that the strict cookie setting?

As far as I’m aware it’s available on Android. It’s built into Enhanced Tracking Protection.

Awesome! That’s what I love about Firefox

Sadly Firefox on iPhone doesn’t translate [human languages]. I don’t want to use Chrome on iPhone and Firefox on PC because synchronising bookmarks and history is too important to give up.

I don’t own an iPhone, but this seems like a totally fair criticism and I don’t see any replies refuting it, so what’s with all the downvotes? I swear to god this place is ridiculous sometimes, these people won’t be happy until you jump through every hoop imaginable to use the Lemmy approved software. Only positive feedback allowed!

because this is inherently Apple’s fault and not Mozilla’s.

Apple’s the one forcing every browser on iOS to be a reskinned version of Safari. And it’s perfectly understandable that Mozilla doesn’t want to waste time and resources developing features for a Firefox-branded Safari when they could be working on their own browser.

What’s your point? The dude gave a perfectly valid reason to not using Firefox, regardless of who’s fault it is.

But also, how on earth would building a functional browser for a phone that owns 55% of the US market share be a waste of time and resources?

it’s a perfectly valid reason for not using Firefox, my point is that they’re on the wrong platform. It’s the user’s own fault, because they chose a closed platform like iOS. Developing free software for iOS is a waste of time, since everything is under Apple’s tyrannical rule and they get to decide which web engine you use, they can disallow extensions and make it very hard (and against their ToS) to sideload apps.

I don’t like Mozilla at all, and that’s why I use Firefox derivatives and not Firefox itself, but I’m glad they don’t waste time developing for a re-skinned Safari. Those resources are best used in their own web engine.

these people won’t be happy until you jump through every hoop imaginable to use the Lemmy approved software

and hardware apparently lol

I am also confused. I didn’t know phone browsers were a team sport, but here we are.

All browsers on iPhones are skins for Safari.

Blame Apple for that bullshit.

Blame Apple for that bullshit.

This one isn’t on Apple. There’s nothing stopping Firefox from having translate on iPhone. It’s on Chrome and Edge.

Isn’t translation feature available as an addon? Afaik iPhone version of Firefox doesn’t have addons.

It’s available as an add-on for Firefox on PC. Language translation is built into the application for Chrome and Edge on iPhone.

Yes, that’s what I’m trying to say. The browsers have different methods for providing same functionality. But due to restrictions on one platform, Firefox can’t provide the functionality that the users want.

Also no-addons policy means no adblock either. Which is quite an L.

Firefox Sync doesn’t work on iPhone?

No, Firefox on iPhone doesn’t translate [human languages]. I don’t want to use Chrome on iPhone and Firefox on PC because they don’t sync between each other.

What are these non human languages that it translates?

I assume machine code and programming languages, but it’s a weird way to say it regardless

Doesn’t translate to what…

Human languages. French to English, German to Arabic, that kind of thing.

I use Firefox because I want you use a web browser whose main focus is browsing the web.

Great, because it comes bundled with an extension to show you news article you may be interested in, occasional ads for their other paid services and will regularly nudge you into donating money so that it can be used for many purpose beside improving the browser.

Does it send all your data to china, ms, or google?

Seeing that neither Edge nor Chrome does either of those outside of regular browser operations, which also happens with Firefox, I’m not sure how that’s relevant.

This is interesting, maybe I changed a settingn years ago but when I start fire fix it just takes me to an empty window until I type something in. Doesn’t try to sell me anything

This is my biggest gripe about Firefox. It keeps trying to recommend “Search with Amazon” instead of google search and a bunch of small little ads baked into the home landing page.

I really really want to believe in firefox but the corporations behind it are way too fishy.

The whole setup of mozilla foundation and mozilla coporation stinks. Mozilla asking for donations when the donation amount is barely 1 percent of their income.

isnt Google watching you all the time not fishy as fuck for you??

I really really want to believe in firefox but the corporations behind it are way too fishy.

You’re right. Let’s continue using browsers made by Google or Microsoft instead. No fishiness there at all!

That’s an odd complaint. If they didn’t ask for donations, donations would be a lower % of their income. How many donations do you need before you can ask for donations?

It’s not a matter of how many donation do you need, it’s a matter of why are you asking for donations in the first place. When half the donations barely cover the salary of the head honcho through shifting restricted cash between organizations, you have to have some confidence to prominently display “We exist to advance the interests of people who use the internet — not profit for shareholders.” on your summary.

So dont donate?

Mozilla used to be much smaller and did rely on some form of donations to continue development. That may not be the case today, but the option is still there for those who’d like to

If a corporations earns halve a billion. Does it really need donations?

The whole concept of a parent company owning the foundation is fishy. Its just as strange that firefox seems to be like by privacy people when the owners are as instranparent as mozilla.

Earning and profiting are two very different things.

The whole concept of a parent company owning the foundation is fishy.

The non-profit foundation is the parent company. It has some taxable subsidiaries that, among other things, handle certain revenue-generating business deals.

You say that like it is any better.

A non-profit that owns a for-profit company is very well not realy non-profit. Just because all their profit is made by one of their subsidaries? And yet mozilla stand itself on some kind of moral highground.

Firefox is open source. Check it out for yourself or find a fork that works better for you.

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