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I really hope israel will loose their wildcard and be accountable for all this shit. Just remove their privileges!

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They won’t. The extermination of Palestinians has been a stated goal of Israel and its allies for decades.

They’re not going to be punished for pulling the trigger.

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This is the full transcript of the recording between an Israeli IDF officer and a resident of northern Gaza

“Hello?”

“Muhammad?”

“Yes”

“How are you?”

“Yes”

"This is an officer from the IDF calling you. For your own safety I’m asking you to go to Khan Yunis as fast as possible "

“Where to?”

“In the direction of Khan Yunis. ASAP. I don’t want you to put yourself at risk, that’s why I’m telling you to go there.”

“All the roads are blocked”

“Where you are right now isn’t safe, you need to… blocked where? Who blocked it? Hamas?”

“Yes”

“What?”

“Yes, that’s correct”

“Where did they block the road?”

“At Salah ad-Din”

“Salah ad-Din?”

“Yeah”

“How did they block it?”

“They’re just forcing people to go back home”

“Are they putting cars on the road? Police cars or…”

“Yes yes”

“How exactly? Explain it to me. Please, did you see it with your own eyes?”

“In a car, people are going south and they’re just bringing them back home”

“How did they block the road?”

“They’re shooting at people”

“Shooting what? Are they shooting at people that want to leave?”

“Yes yes yes”

https://twitter.com/ItayBlumental/status/1717466384794300882?t=7HRQJ5h29HRlfhN1fCl3mQ&s=19

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And then what did the IDF forces do to Northern Gaza?

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You’re doing the same thing the Israeli war criminals do

Mass murder?

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Israel=The Israeli govt. in basically every conversation within this context. Trying to say “but both right?!” When that’s what everyone has been saying from the start, makes you look like you’re acting in bad faith.

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It’s hard to go against them in the West.

The right hate Muslims so side with Israel.

The left hate to be called antisemites, so hand-wring over civilian deaths, but ultimately side with Israel.

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Who are these voices on the “left” that you say are supporting Israel?

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Biden

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https://labour.org.uk/updates/press-releases/keir-starmers-statement-to-the-commons-on-israel-gaza-2/

And this is where you accuse anybody right of being a full communist of not being left enough, so we can save ourselves that interaction.

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No one on the left is hand wringing over the civilian deaths but ultimately siding with Israel. Literally no one.

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You recall that Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history, right?

You guys make me embarrassed to call myself a lefty.

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Well gee, that sure does give Isreal the right to do ethnic cleansing. It’s self defense after all so everything is permissible. /s

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Hamas doing something horrible doesn’t make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza though, not everyone inside Gaza is Hamas

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Speaking of, Hamas has over 1MM liters of fuel, and ample supplies of fresh water, that they refuse to distribute in Gaza. They also refuse to return hostages, which would also immediately lift the siege.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-gaza-photos-show-half-million-liters-of-fuel-held-by-hamas/

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The reason they stockpiled so much is their tunnel ventilation systems run on generators (which is also the reason Israel is trying to deny them fuel, because tunnel fighting is a nightmare and that’s what is coming)

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-770123

Here’s a great video with more info https://www.youtube.com/live/xfc0nHLgDuY?si=8P-MddAIFXsFt-mA

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Palestine is protecting and aiding Hamas, though.

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Bloodiest assault in history? You have to be joking.

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Uhh yeah? This is the bloodiest attack Palestine has ever done against Israel. Are you stunned? 😂

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(x) Doubt.

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“Look at what you made me do!”

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Hasn’t Israel been killing them since LONG before they took hostages? Why would release them suddenly make it stop?

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Prior to early October, Israel was completely out of Gaza, and was not attacking Gaza whatsoever, so no they weren’t killing them long before they took hostages.

Also the entire siege is about trying to force Hamas to give up hostages. That is literally the reason it is being done. Hamas also has massive food, water, and fuel stockpiles they refuse to share with the people they “govern”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-gaza-photos-show-half-million-liters-of-fuel-held-by-hamas/

Also they’re using that fuel to power the ventilation systems in their tunnels that run on generators

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-770123

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Just lovely how everybody is forgetting that Israel is responsible for that.

Everyone can always blame someone else, especially in this conflict. It’s time for Israel to grow up and take responsibility for its actions. They have caused harm, anger, and hatred by using terrorism (fear and violence) to enforce their rule over people. Somehow we (the US and most of the west) provide them with resources and weapons though. How fucked up is that?

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Then by that logic it’s fair game for native Americans to start cleansing all European bloodlines in the United States? As a Latino person, I can go into any southwest state and start killing my neighbors because their ancestors “caused harm, anger, and hatred by using terrorism (fear and violence) to enforce their rule over people”?

How are you tankies this fucking dumb?

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“Stop making me murder you!”

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Evil is as evil does. There is never a justification for attacking civilians.

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Israel doesn’t give two shits about the hostages. If they did they wouldn’t keep bombing where they are being held.

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Why did they take hostage?

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Because Hamas’s stated purpose is to destroy Israel, and they knew their attack would be met with reprisal, so they took hostages as human meat-shields

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