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I had these in middle school… Which would have been the late 1990’s…

It’s definitely normal… I’m not sure what the person you responded to is going on about.

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Well maybe my school was the outlier that didn’t have active shooter drills but that makes it even worse that it’s been 30+ years and nothing has changed. It should NOT be normal to have to prepare elementary kids to hide from an active shooter in their school.

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that it’s been 30+ years

Uh? 2023-(late)1990s… = ~25… Please god don’t make me older than I am… I just can’t take that today.

and nothing has changed.

But it has, MORE schools do it now. So it’s even MORE normal now.

It should NOT be normal to have to prepare elementary kids to hide from an active shooter in their school.

This is a different statement than before. I agree that it should not have to be a normal thing… But unfortunately that’s what it is. But it’s not gun policies that make this the normal. If we want to talk specifically about school shootings… It doesn’t seem that legislation on gun bans alone have made any difference. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/school-shootings-by-state

California is by far the worst state for school shootings, and has what amounts to the strictest laws in all of the USA.

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I was in high school in the early 90s, we never had active ahooter drills, we just had the occasional lockdown due to gang wars…

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occasional lockdown due to gang wars…

Do gangs operate without guns where you live?

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Lockdown is different from a drill. It’s as of I said we never had fire drills, but the school burned down a couple times.

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Could be by location. Never had them in a small new england town, but I believe I did in San Diego

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My middle school was literally a small New England town…

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It is entirely possible that the timelines for their introductions were different.

Also it is only more worrying that the problem is left unadressed since 25 years. Again nothing should be normal about school children having to learn how to hide from someone with a gun trying to kill as many of them as possible.

The US truly seems like a failed state from the outside.

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Unaddressed is a bit harsh. Maybe not fully addressed to how we would like, but measures have been attempted in the last quarter century

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And what EU country is rolling in success right now?

If you’re going to walk into a conversation and the only thing you have to add is “The US truly seems like a failed state from the outside.” You’re not actually going to further that conversation at all.

Also it is only more worrying that the problem is left unadressed since 25 years.

What is unaddressed? What problem do you think exists here? Every time I see this argument it’s always stupidly phrased. The UK has lower rates therefore it must be gun control…

Look at the intentional homicide rates… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Notice something? It’s South America that’s completely fucked. If we ban guns in the US… nothing stops that shit from proliferating into the USA on the southern border. Our issues are more handled with better border controls and increase mental welfare. Most violence that happens here is gang violence.

But for one moment let’s look at this list. Notice the British Virgin Islands place on this list… Very similar controls to Britain proper… but has a 2 point higher rate than the USA…

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The issue of school shootings, and other acts of violence with the sole intent to kill random people. These things happen about once in a decade in most western countries.

In the US they happen all the fucking time. Especially that people go out of their way to murder a bunch of elementary kids is something happening extremely rarely in other countries.Not so in the US.

In no point did i argue about the particular reasons or solutions, but it is evident that the US is really fucked up in this regard.

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