Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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Attacking Palestinians now will not do any good.

Attacking hamas will. It was done before and it helped with stopping attacks, for a while but still.

Palestine has 7000 dead including 3000 children from just this month.

That information comes from hamas. Terrorists should not be trusted. It’s enough to know that there are casualties. Even one death is a tragedy.

And no, these are not exactly comparable. Russia has no good reasons to invade Ukraine. Israel has good reasons to invade Gaza.

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Attacking Hamas is not happening, but nobody denies that attacking Hamas is justified. Attacking Palestinians in general as an alternative in the hope that some of Hamas is swept up is a war crime.

That information comes from the Palestinians health authority which is considered pretty accurate. Every death is a tragedy, yes, so 3000 kids tragedies is 100 times the tragedies of the 30.

Israel does not have good reason to “invade” Gaza. They are using terrorist attacks to justice genocide. Genocide is never justified.

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I don’t think your assumption that Israel can only “attack Palestinians in hopes to harm hamas” is correct. They wouldn’t warn anyone otherwise and we know they did that a lot of times. Also their counter strikes would’ve been much more effective if they wouldn’t do that.

There are no authorities in Gaza except hamas. Gaza is fully controlled by terrorists. If there would be such an authority I’m sure they wouldn’t allow building military objects under hospitals.

They are using terrorist attacks to justice genocide.

Think you mistyped “justify”. Israel doesn’t need to justify defending from terrorists. Hamas, on the other hand, has a record of using Palestinians as a shield and not caring to protect them at all.

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Hamas using them as a shield does not make killing them right.

Israel is not defending itself from terrorism. It is retaliation for a terrorist attack.

They do have some intelligence as to where Hamas use as locations etc however rules of war require they take precautions to minimise civilian casualties. They give some warnings as this gives plausible deniability that they are taking precautions. The number of dead civilians versus confirmed Hamas killed tells a different story. Telling people to leave but closing the border tells a different story. Telly people to leave one area then bombing the path they were told to take tells a different story.

Hamas is the de facto government, but Palestine is not recognized as a state so there is not really a government, as most in other countries would know it, especially western counyries. Guess who is preventing normalisation of their sovereignty? Last elections were 17 years ago. The youngest people to vote are now over 35. 50% of the population is under 18. So, the legitimacy of saying they voted for this is spurious at best. Remember Israel and netamyahu in particular stifled their competitors.

Incessant bombing of civilians is creating more terrorists, not less. That doesn’t make it right, but to make out like Israel is defending itself while killing thousands of children is ridiculous. Israel as a state is a de facto terrorist state too at this point

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