Comment by nutsack@lemmy.world on Petition demands that Microsoft extends Windows 10 support

said no music producer ever

It’s not that bad. Bitwig studio plus ya ridge works pretty good. Also: no Tux no bux

I produced an album doing exactly this. the windows VST plugins with yabridge run like shit. not all of them worked. bitwig and reaper are fantastic though, and are great examples of what linux audio could be. unfortunately I am often using tools besides the daw and its built in features.

I should mention that yabridge folks are amazing. they are very responsive on IRC and they helped a lot. I think the main developer has pulled off something important here and I have a very high level of respect for what he’s doing. i have to put my music before my computer though.

Yeah, some vests are just crap and too locked into windows to be usable. Personally, I’m a computer guy that also does music (through I’ve been to busy from studying), so I won’t bother with something that is not Gnu/Linux

yeah, some of the most useful, popular and modern VSTs are unbelievable garbage software

You’re almost getting to the point of switching… So close!

There are people who work on music full time on Linux.

they have a very narrow and specific set of software tools and hardware devices they can use. the ecosystem is shit, basically.

Sure, and my mechanic was working full time from his yard before buying a real garage with a lift. Just because some people go through the trouble of doing it doesn’t mean it’s the best tool for the job.

The best tool for the job is the tool you have access to.

Well, if you have Linux then you have a PC then you can install Windows and you have access to better tools…

I’d rather bath my nan than go through another Windows install.

Man, you guys are precious and a half

That doesn’t apply the same for tools as it does cameras. For cameras the idea is at least you have the image captured. For a tool, if you’re trying to lift a car up, a hammer alone isn’t going to do you much good.

Why doesn’t it apply? Because you don’t want it to?

Not everyone who has an interest in something has access to resources. Money is often the limiting factor. So should those people not pursue their interest because the tools they don’t have are beyond their reach?

Why doesn’t it apply?

Lift a car with a hammer. Sometimes the only tool you have access to is the wrong tool. That doesn’t make it the best or correct or even reasonable tool to use.

I’m not sure I understand how your analogy fits. There’s no heavy lifting involved. 🙂 Everything works and it’s ready-made – otherwise people wouldn’t use it at all. There are also lots of distros specifically tailored to audio and studio work. Naturally, there’s some things to learn but you also had to learn things when you got into audio and presumably you keep up with the industry so there isn’t a big difference.

Check out /r/linuxaudio, lots of resources in the sidebar and very helpful community.

otherwise people wouldn't use it at all

Exactly my point, that’s just not true. There’s always some people who will use the worse tool instead of switching to the better tool (out of principle mostly), it doesn’t mean the tool is great or as good as the alternative, it just means the person doesn’t mind making their life harder than it needs to be.

Just like there were people insisting on doing graphical work on Windows back when Apple was miles ahead in that field or some places run Windows Server instead of using Linux and so on.

Heck, you’re talking about using specific distros for music stuff… If you’re going to dual boot or have a specific OS just for that, why not use the OS that has the better tools that are the industry standard?

Can you now install Mac OS on any hardware? They have the best tools for audio work, right? I can just choose that tool and install it on my… Oh wait! I can’t do that.

Do you not understand the argument you’re arguing?

Hackintosh, but Pro Tools is what’s used by the actual industry (so if you want to be serious about it you better learn to use it) and it’s on both Windows and Mac.

There are tools that work on any OS. Audio processing has been developing at an even pace on all main OS (Windows, Mac, Linux). At this point it’s a matter of what flow works best for you. Windows itself is not an industry standard by any means. The OS matters very little in general beyond being able to give you real time processing and low latency. Windows could not even do low latency before 10.

Pro tools (the real studio standard): Windows, Mac

Logic: Mac

Live: Windows, Mac

Nuendo: Windows, Mac

Sound Forge: Windows, Mac

Acid Pro: Windows

Reaper: Windows, Mac… Linux!

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