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44 points

Title doesn’t provide context: transported a minor for an out of state abortion, son was an adult sleeping with a minor

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They are two years apart, both underage. Then when he turned 18, suddenly that makes it different? She had been living with them for an extended period of time and having consensual sex while both were minors. When she became pregnant, the family didn’t want her to keep the pregnancy, where the options were to either get an abortion (valid, especially for 16-18 Y/Os still wholly dependent on the parents financially and for shelter) or her going back to her family’s Idaho house and having the baby. She chose the former. That’s not kidnapping, that’s a choice.

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That’s a little misleading, this was a 16 year old who was living with her 18 year old boyfriend and his mom. Obviously having an abortion was the only remotely sensible thing to do rather than bringing a baby into that household.

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Sensible, but it turns out teenagers aren’t sensible, and they threatened her into getting it done.

They belong in prison.

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Threatened? With violence? Or they said she could go back to live with her parents… ooo no! So threatening

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Threatened her? I guess you’re referring to this?

The girl said that she was “happy” to learn she was pregnant, but said Kadyn Swainston told her that he would not pay child support and that the relationship would be over if she gave birth, court records show. The girl also said that Rachael Swainston made the arrangements for the girl to have an abortion. Rachael Swainston told the girl that Kadyn Swainston would get in trouble because he was over 18, and threatened to kick her out of the house if she revealed she was pregnant to her parents, police said.

I don’t think a mother telling her teenage son’s girlfriend that she’s not going to have a baby she can’t support under her roof is inappropriate. She could go back to her parents or anywhere else on Earth that would have her if she wanted to become a teen mother.

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59 points

Worse.

Apparently she was living with him, and wanted to keep the baby.

He and his parents told her if she kept it or told anyone she was pregnant, that he’d break up with her and kick her out of the house.

Like, this is the exact opposite of what conservatives wanted with their anti abortion law, and likely why they’re not using it.

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I’ve heard conservatives claim that many liberals actually want forced abortions, because it’s really about eugenics and population control.

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Fuck im tired and thought you we’re claiming liberals we’re wanting eugenics and population control. Was about to call ya a gormless cocksucking bastard.

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Like, this is the exact opposite of what conservatives wanted with their anti abortion law, and likely why they’re not using it.

I hope the Democrats pounce on this, because this is the sort of shit that was considered over emotional hand wringing when people suggested it could happen. But then again, they said the same thing about the 10yo who needed the out of state abortion, o who knows what good it will do…

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She had been in a consensual sexual relationship with Kadyn Swainston since she was 15 and he was 17, and the relationship continued after he turned 18, the girl told police.

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So?

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In less ass-backwards states, the age difference would be small enough to eliminate the possibility of sexual assault/statuary rape charges against the son. However, Idaho is… different.

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26 points

Grey area. Not a large age gap and they were together while both being minors.

That mom and son come across as really gross. I hope that girl gets real help.

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I found this at https://www.federallawyers.com/

Strict Limits of Idaho’s Laws

Idaho’s Romeo and Juliet laws have strict limits compared to many states. Key restrictions include:

  • No defenses for victims under 15

  • 3 year max age gap for 16-17 year olds

  • Defendant max age of 17 for 15 year olds

  • Parents can still pursue charges

Overall, Idaho offers relatively weak Romeo and Juliet protections compared to most other states.

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Came here to see if anyone investigated Romeo and Juliet laws.

Holy. Shit.

I’ve never heard of such a draconian application.

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