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Ideally you shouldn’t have to compromise. GrapheneOS without Google is an option.

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It literally isn’t - Graphene only supports Google Pixel phones.

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You’ve apparently missed the point. Graphene exists solely to harden security and privacy by disabling the googly parts of the phone. That is clearly what was meant by “without Google”

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You can do that without Graphene though

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And how do you know there aren’t hardware level trackers in Google’s chips? The kind Graphene can’t override? Do you trust Google not to do that?

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Just use Lineage os

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I want to like Lineage, but while it doesn’t come with extra bloat, the system itself doesn’t do a whole lot of degoogling core services

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Or literally and other custom ROM based on aosc or lineage os

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+1 for Lineage, been using them since they forked from cyanogenmod

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Very true.

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GrapheneOS still takes away a bit of control though. Mainly in that it’s locked down for privacy in some ways that you can’t disable

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@soulfirethewolf @ijeff its biggest lockdown is the security model, which even though it won’t disallow you from doing anything you couldn’t otherwise do (if you’re motivated enough), it draws the line of tradeoffs to make. I gave up rooting and a lot of stuff (like contactless payments) for it’s security and stability, and I’m fine with that, but you should ask yourself if that’s worth it for you. If you have to go out of your way to break the security model, even once, then it isn’t for you.

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