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Lemmy.ml is somewhat more neutral. In Lemmygrad you can sometimes have a discussion, but you will probably be downvoted. Hexbear is just toxic, it’s like Lemmygrad but for 14 year olds.

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I can tell you Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml are not the same. If anything, lemmy.ml is privacy/tech based more than anything, with disdain for capitalism. They’re not hardcore “AYE, COMRADE” like hexbear or lemmygrad, Jesus christ

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14 points

Okay, liberal.

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13 points

wdym by

They took over the domain a couple of months ago. ?

wasn’t ml started by Dessalines/nutomic??

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THAT makes sense why ani.social defederated from Lemmy.ml (I only subscribed to the anime instance since it had the largest user base)

Edit: the “.ml” anime instance is still the largest compared to everyone else. What a shame that we can’t move away from it

This was Ani’s side of the story: https://ani.social/comment/2199318

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Lemmy.ml is run and was started by the developers of Lemmy. The developers themselves align with lemmygrad, however they try to keep their politics out of lemmy.ml for the most part. It’s debateable how effective they are with this, it probably ebbs and flows somewhat.

Moderation without informing you is common across all lemmy instances. Moderators have to go out of their way to notify you, there are no automated messages to go along with moderator action. However, lemmy has always had an open modlog, so you can see why you were moderated if you look it up. Note: sometimes I’ve had difficulty loading the modlog, particularly the instance modlog (where an overall instance ban would be), though community modlogs tend to load fine.

Also, you should bear in mind the difference between instance admin and community moderators - a community moderator is allowed to run their community as they see fit, within the rules of the instance (like reddit was supposed to be). If a moderator wants to ban you, they may have every right to per the instance rules, even if they have no good justification or you didn’t break any rules.

Certainly, the hexbear admin are just as bad as the hexbear moderators, and will throw bans around for dubious reasons while protecting their own committing the same offence. Lemmygrad moderators seem a little less eager to ban, but they’re still looking for any excuse. I haven’t had any encounters with lemmy.ml moderation though, but I wouldn’t consider the place a dumpster fire - that title firmly belongs to hexbear.

One good reason to keep lemmy.ml is simply to keep up with lemmy back-end development.

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And attempt to engage in secondary unused communities? A lot of the most active communities are on it, you are just asking for your home page to be either way too filtered or a wasteland.

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I’m sorry, I’m confused. You said Lemmy.ml is run by the same people as Lemmygrad.ml but if you click either of those links, you can see the admin list. Not one user is the same. Do they have different accounts, or what? Do you have some kind of citation for this?

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“ml” in both of these cases is supposed to mean “marxist-leninist”, always has been.

the difference is lemmy.ml is not a politics-focused instance

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23 points

Lemmygrad and Lemmyml are run by the same insane people…

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14 points

Yes indeed but despite their more extreme beliefs compared to the average lemmings, they are quite lenient and accepting with lemmy.ml. I wouldn’t call the devs insane, solely for the fact that they gladly welcomed all the Reddit immigrants despite that they get numerous hate posts about their ideology.

Just to clarify, I’m just a normal libcenter guy, not an extremist.

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6 points

Huh, didn’t know that. Lemmyml seemed totally fine though?

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10 points

They’re all radioactive shitholes. There is no “lesser evil”, it’s all hypocrisy and willful ignorance in those circles.

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Lemmy.ml has several solid communities, including the largest AskLemmy community. Their top 20 largest communities are all pretty mainstream and don’t really see the kind of posts/comments that make people wary of Lemmygrad or Hexbear.

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I’ve had multiple bans from Lemmy.ml, they are anything but neutral. The best way to cop a ban is to make a comment arguing with their point of view that people actually agree with, they hate that.

They’re also some of the most insufferable people on the Internet.

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Were they bans from lemmy.ml, or from specific communities within lemmy.ml? I’ve only had a ban from !worldnews@lemmy.ml

Edit: Actually maybe it was for the whole instance lol, not sure, I hadn’t noticed I was banned for 2 weeks anyway.

Edit2: Seems it was just the one community, I was commenting on other lemmy.ml communities just fine. However the modlog doesn’t say which community I was banned from. Generally, the modlog should contain more information.

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Not even remotely close to 2/3, and it’s the whiney and annoying chunk anyway. I don’t want to “not engage”, I want them out of my feed.

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4 points

Same, its just garbage and a shit load of snowflakes that break with the smallest difference in opinion or jokes that don’t fit with their political opinion.

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17 points

seconded. lemmy.ml has afaik the biggest interesing communities for FOSS, privacy, Memes, etc.

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11 points

FOSS, privacy, Memes, etc.

Aka whining about YouTube ads, paranoia, and communist whingeing thinly veiled as humour.

No big loss.

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12 points

It’s not, but even if it was that would mean 2/3ds of lemmy is full of licking authoritarian boots and genocide denial, so I’m fine with not seeing that.

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5 points

Add ani.social too IMO.

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