Comment by Fredselfish@lemmy.world on Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

Well not to discourage them but I like Epic games because every Thursday they give me a free game sometimes two. Hell all the 100 games I own on their platform I gotten for free. So maybe that’s why it’s not profitable?

Beyond that I see no monopoly every game on their I can find on Steam and so far have had no issues with it.

They literally pay for exclusivity. It’s weird that people seem to selectively ignore that every time someone brings up their desire to get free games from them.

This is the main reason why I never made an account, despite the free games.

Epic still has to pay the developers even if they give away the game for free. I’m happy to help bleed Epic dry by taking their free games. But I will never ever spend a single cent on their platform.

You’re lying to yourself. They pay a fixed amount for the giveaway and it doesn’t matter if the games are claimed. If anything, you owning a game on Epic means you’re more likely to mention it to your friends and possibly get them to use the platform and spend on it.

This. Active usernumbers are more worth to them than the small fee they pay the Devs. Everyone who “just redeems the free games” is helping them actively.

They pay a fixed amount based on expected/average number of units given away. If that number is higher, devs can get more money.

Can you provide any evidence for this? The documents from the Apple trial showed fixed and round figures for every single giveaway.

Same If I buy a game it will be either directly from the maker or Steam. Epic strictly for the free games.

I mean, I get why people hate this, but some games would literally not exist if not for that exclusivity funding. For example, the newly released Alan Wake 2 is completely funded by Epic. I’d say at that point, the exclusivity is fair game.

Epic funding games development was only a recent thing. For the most part, they were buying exclusivity for games that were already set to be released or were already in active development. The other reason why this was hated was because they bought exclusivity for games that were crowd-funded back when the store was newly opened.

After Control’s success, I’d imagine AW2 still would’ve been made even without Epic’s exclusivity/publishing deal. If anything, Control’s timed EGS exclusivity hurt their numbers until they eventually hit Steam.

So your theory is that Control wasn’t a major success on Epic, so Remedy decided to do the same thing with their next game? Sounds legit.

Epic funding games just makes them a publisher, nothing groundbreaking.

I have not bought a single game from their store. I have over 300.

I also haven’t played any of the games I got for free. Maybe one day I will, but today is not that day.

I started playing a few and they play well and so far are fun. Have had no issues with the platform.

every game on their [sic] I can find on Steam

Oh yeah? Find these:

3 out of 10

A Knight’s Quest

Alan Wake Remastered

Alan Wake 2

Assassin’s Creed Mirage

Battle Breakers

Binary Smoke

Castle Storm 2

Core

Corruption 2029

Crime Boss: Rockay City

Dangerous Driving

Dauntless

Dead Island 2

Diabotical

Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed

Goat Simulator 3

Grit

Infinitesimals

John Carpenter’s Toxic Commando

Kid A Mnesia Exhibition

Kingdom Hearts series

The Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria

Ooblets

PC Building Simulator 2

ReadySet Heroes

Rocket League

RollerCoaster Tycoon Adventures

Salt and Sacrifice

Saturnalia

The Settlers: New Allies

Shoulders of Giants

Sins of a Solar Empire II

Space Punks

Star Trek: Resurgence

Tchia

The Crew Motorfest

The Expanse: A Telltale Series

Tortuga - A Pirate’s Tale

Touch Type Tale

Witchfire

The Wolf Among Us 2

I don’t know about any of the others, but at least Rocket League and Fall Guys are great examples here.

Both games already existed and were extremely successful on Steam.

Both games got bought by Epic and we were told they were going to get continued support.

Both games were then REMOVED from Steam.

Both games then started suddenly having objectively worse monetization. Both communities grew a pretty negative opinion of the changes.

Both games are objectively less popular now, though at least some of this is just age/fads.

But both games are just objectively in a worse spot than they were before. All Epic did was make them objectively worse.

This list is just another argument against epic… artificial exclusives. For a FUCKING LAUNCHER. Even fucking Playstation, EA and Ubisoft opened up.

Fuck Epic.

Fucking Playstation is not better than Epic with handling exclusives lmfao come on now

They are literally releasing their games on another platform that actually requires them to put money into the project again to develop a port. So yeah, even PS atm is better than Epic.

So Playstation releasing some of their games literally years later as often sub-par ports is better than being able to play a game day 1 native on PC? I’d love to hear to the logic for that lol

It’s better than keeping them artificially locked behind a launcher for no reason whatsoever, yes.

They bought fall guys and removed the possibility of buying it on steam. And timed exclusives like borderlands 3.

Battle Breakers

This is a bad example to put down, can’t find that on the epic store either.

https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/epic-is-turning-off-online-services-and-servers-for-some-older-games

Okay, fair, there are some exclusives. But reading through these, wow, nothing of value is lost.

Most importantly because for the newest ones like AW2, they’re just on a 1 year Early Access release in a lot of ways. Every time someone I know bought a game there, I was grateful they did the paid (as in, they pay, not get paid) bug testing work for the poor devs. And then once it releases on other stores, you can buy a somewhat patched-up version, and usually for 25%-50% off.

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