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Im also for small government and personal rights. But I firmly believe murder should be a crime.

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Good thing abortion isn’t murder.

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-24 points

Yes it is.

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Try to use your brain like a grown person and not have strong opinions on things that you clearly know very little about. Anyone that knows what abortion really is, when and why it’s done doesn’t think it’s murder. You also completely ignore the life quality of the children that are forced to be born with physical and/or mental problems, parents that can’t afford to give them even the basics, the mental and physical strain that can kill both child and mother etc.

You are a deeply shitty and stupid person and you would do everyone a favor by learning even the basics of things you have opinions about, or shutting the hell up.

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28 points

That’s not what murder is, and you know it.

Stop it with this weak rhetoric.

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-15 points

Why is it not murder? You are killing a living human

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4 points

No they’re not

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2 points

Can you think of reasons to kill another human that is not murder?

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15 points

“small government” meaning “I decide what is murder, your opinions and beliefs don’t matter, and I’m not willing to hear your arguments against it”.

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15 points

Me too but we are talking about abortion here

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-35 points

Abortion is murder.

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YOU are a murderer.

My sister was bleeding to death from an incomplete miscarriage of a very much wanted pregnancy in Ohio ten years ago. You know how they fix that problem? The exact same medical procedure that is used for elective abortion.

You would have preferred that my sister bleed to death or die of sepsis for no reason. You are trying to murder my sister.

In case you think that doesn’t really happen:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

“On 21 October 2012, Halappanavar, then 17 weeks pregnant, was examined at University Hospital Galway after complaining of back pain, but was soon discharged without a diagnosis. She returned to the hospital later that day, this time complaining of lower pressure, a sensation she described as feeling “something coming down”, and a subsequent examination found that the gestational sac was protruding from her body. She was admitted to hospital, as it was determined that miscarriage was unavoidable, and several hours later, just after midnight on 22 October, her water broke but did not expel the fetus.[8]: 22–26 [8]: 29 [9] The following day, on 23 October, Halappanavar discussed abortion with her consulting physician but her request was promptly refused, as Irish law at that time forbade abortion if a fetal heartbeat was still present.[8]: 33 [10] Afterwards, Halappanavar developed sepsis and, despite doctors’ efforts to treat her, had a cardiac arrest at 1:09 AM on 28 October, and died, aged 31”

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9 points

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

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5 points

We better arrest every woman who has a miscarriage under suspicion of murder.

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5 points

Fuck off guy. You aren’t changing anyone’s minds on Lemmy.

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Abortion is self defense, never murder.

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