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Or we get rid of the circumstances that led to them becoming bank robbers.

Hamas does not just magically get support. People have been pushed to extremism by oppressive apartheid rule and genocide. TO BE CLEAR Hamas is bad and I am not justifying their actions. If you want to stop creating extremists you’re an idiot if you thinking harming a bunch of civilians in your attempt to wipe them out is going to help.

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Neither is letting them fire rockets towards you for years on end. There is only so much you can do with bank robbers that are funded by others around them, who believe it’s their god given duty to rob banks. TO BE CLEAR civilians being killed is terrible on either side, just one side is putting a lot of effort into making bomb shelters and missile defense, while the other is putting in a lot of effort into creating tunnels to store and smuggle rockets.

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In 2020 the US gave Isreal $3.8 billion. If you think Hamas is nearly as funded you’re bad at math. I’m down to give Hamas an iron dome.

Do you think the effort is going towards tunnels and rockets because they’re inherently evil or do you want to think about the variables that caused this situation. Variables like apartheid, genocide, Israel’s military advantage, etc.

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If the US had given Hamas $3.8 billion, it definitely wouldn’t have been used for an iron dome.

Yes I do believe Hamas is inherently evil, the same way I believe the north Korean leadership is evil.

Plenty of variables to take into account, and it’s understandable how they got like this, but the same way a lot of serial killers have an abusive upbringing, does not mean everyone with an abusive upbringing will be a serial killers.

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The US likely thinks that the nation state that was established by the UN to provide a home for a people victimized by an attempt to eradicate Jews in Europe is worth defending. I’m no fan of any of this shit, but as someone else recently pointed out, if Hamas stops receiving funding, the likely result is less conflict. If Israel stops receiving funding, three likely result is that they will be wiped off the face of the earth in short order. I believe there is truth to that.

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What a fairy tale solution. Too bad it only works in fairy tales.

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It’s a “fairy tale” to think that increasing the oppression that created extremists in the first place is going to suddenly stop radicalizing people.

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