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48 points

I mean, why would I ever unlock the bootloader if I’m going to keep the stock OS? People don’t just unlock the bootloader and leave it there sitting doing nothing 😂

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7 points

Magisk, Revanced using root to simply replace stock YouTube app without having to deal with MicroG, tuning kernel to achieve Moah powa babeh, better battery, etc.

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4 points

soo basically encouraging people that just unlock the bootloader to do this to install a different OS?

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2 points

It is OS endorsed by Xiaomi. Plus I’ve paid for the device, so it is up to me what I do with it.

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2 points

Would using root to remove an app remove everything? Because if not, why not simply use adb to uninstall an app like YouTube, for example?

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Since you cannot unlock the bootloader without going into the OS now, I prefer to leave it unlocked but stock.

That way, if the device ever cannot boot, I can at least Adb pull my data off the device from fastboot.

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4 points

I prefer to leave it unlocked

That’s makes it much less secure and is a wide attack surface.

https://grapheneos.org/install/web#locking-the-bootloader

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Is there a way to lock the bootloader and keep a ROM different from the one the device shipped with? Or do I need to relock and reunlock every time I need to update the custom ROM, with all the data loss this implies?

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Well depends on why you’re unlocking the bootloader. Some people just want root but not necessarily a custom ROM. Though for some phones a custom ROM may be more appealing than others.

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i mean in this case, if you’re planning to root you’d much rather use a custom OS that will still give you OS updates

or, just buy a different android and avoid the bs entirely

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10 points

For rooting it, for example. That’s always an option, even when your phone does not have a good alternative ROM

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I have never met a person that just rooted their phone without slapping a custom ROM on it. The initial motive for rooting is normally to install a custom ROM, but that makes sense I guess

Edit: yup, I’m wrong about needing root to install a custom ROM. My apologies, my last rooted device was the galaxy note 3 back in 2013/2014. My memory is very rusty.

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I have never met a person that just rooted their phone without slapping a custom ROM on it.

Now you have

The initial motive for rooting is normally to install a custom ROM

I think there are some misunderstandings.

Root is not needed to flash a custom ROM. That does not (usually) happen from a running system, but through fastboot or the recovery, and those don’t ask for root permission, only an unlocked bootloader.

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5 points

You don’t necessarily need to root to install a custom ROM

On a Fairphone at least you can practically flash the device OOTB after unlocking the bootloader, no root needed.

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“The initial motive for rooting is normally to install a custom rom”.

Nope.

Rooting has nothing whatsoever to do with installing a custom rom.

Root is a function within a rom - it’s the equivalent of granting admin access in Windows (root means you have write access to the root directory). Most ROMs that you can install aren’t rooted themselves. That’s how little root is related to rom.

What is common between rooting and a custom rom is the requirement for an unlocked bootloader.

I’ve rooted almost every phone I’ve owned (since 2009), and all but the last 2 never had a custom rom available. Most phones don’t have a custom rom available - it’s a rare phone that does have a custom rom available.

Check out rom developers, like Lineage, to see how many devices get custom rom support.

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