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Maybe a politicker who brags about being mentored by Henry Kissinger, a war-criminal whose record matches that of Heinrich Himmler himself, shouldn’t be referencing Hitler.

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“matches that of Heinrich Himmler”, you mean the head of the SS and one of the main people behind the holocaust?

Have you ever considered that your life, and life in general would be better if you didn’t have such absurd and shrill opinions?

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There is one way in which Himmler and Kissinger differs… Himmler at least had the backbone to go and witness the results of his policies in person - specifically, the Babi Yar massacre in Ukraine. Kissinger never did go see for himself the gargantuan atrocities he had “achieved” in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Timor, and Chile.

Oh, I forgot the other way Kissinger and Himmler differs… Himmler was hanged - Kissinger got off scott-free. So there’s that.

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so you really REALLY do not understand the brutality of the Holocaust then, and less so the history of the sub-chinease peninsula, and Pinochet couldn’t hold a candle to what Himmler did

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What like to the front? Do you know of other secretaries of state who went to the front?

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Unfortunately, the American education system just kinda gives up teaching history after 1945. Otherwise, you might be more familiar with the US State Department sponsored coups and subsequent genocides in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Pacific Rim over the subsequent 40 years.

Kissinger absolutely was administering mass arrests and executions in US client states, from the overthrow of democracies in Iran and Egypt to the massacres of dissidents in Jakarta and Rio de Janeiro and Santiago to the arming of the Khmer Rouge and subsequent bombings in Laos and Cambodia. Say what you will about Himmler, but he only really had the reigns of a mid-sized European industrial power for a decade. Kissinger was instrumental in steering truly nightmarish foreign policies on an international scale for four times as long.

And when you look at how folks like Kerry and Clinton and Blinken consistently turn to the Kissinger playbook to advance US foreign policy in the modern day, he’s got even more blood on his hands by proxy than that.

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I don’t know of anyone who thinks we can or should stop every genocide. Kissinger didn’t lead these things you’re talking about, or at least the things I I think you’re talking about. And he wasn’t unique in his views. Kissinger is not comparable to Himmler, this is a ridiculous post, shallow. .

I think Kissinger and everyone in the foreign service and executive branch who helped execute American foreign policy thought was that if two violent factions were going to kill each other, America might as well back the one it thinks it can work with to advance it’s foreign policy goals. Kissinger wasn’t a wizard. He couldn’t make the north and south Vietnamese stop killing each other. You don’t have to like it to pick a strategic interest and choose a side.

It’s called realpolitik.

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13 points

kissinger lost his glasses in a toilet so he can’t talk

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10 points

probably couldn’t see too well, after that, either.

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Probably couldn’t see before too well either, hence the need for glasses.

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I guess you’re one of those people who day that Hamas is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?

Nuanced, very nuanced…

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I guess you’re one of those people who day that Hamas Israel is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?

FTFY.

No, I’m not one of those people. Israel prefers Willy Pete to Zyklon-B, for instance - so there is a difference, I guess.

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Calling Israel the same as hitler may be funny on an “I’m 15 and this is edgy” level, but it’s ignorant as fuck to claim that. Yes, the Israeli has committed and continues to commit atrocious acts, but it’s leagues away from what the Nazis did. It’s not even in the same ballpark.

Same goes for Hamas. It’s a horrible terror organization, it holds zero candles to hitler and his buddies

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Hamas is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?

A small paramilitary organization operating in occupied territory is doing the exact same as the Chancellor of a European industrial powerhouse?

I’m always a bit surprised when some terminally online guy tries to give people in Hamas this much credit.

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Small paramilitary organization? Okay guys, we can call Isreal out for genocide while still acknowledging Hamas as a terrorist group that slaughtered 1,000 civilians, plus whatever else since then.

Hamas and Isreal both suck. The only people I care about are the civilians and dead kids.

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-22 points

And yet, you have no problem using electronics built with slave labor.

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11 points

Bit of a false assumption, isn’t that? There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism, so trying to advocate for better while participating in an unjust system is a requirement for many people.

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There’s no ethical way to run a nation. Lincoln was barely able to free the slaves and FDR couldn’t end segregation. Hilary listening to Kissenger doesn’t mean she supports everything he ever did.

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7 points

Does someone have the comic?

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2 points

Oh, look… another Holocaust apologist.

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1 point

Can you tell me the name of the ethically sourced device you’re using?

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1 point

Neither do you, since you commented.

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1 point

As you did, too. Almost as if no one is completely pure.

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