“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.

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Remember this blood is on the hands of anyone who voted for him and would vote for him again.

Genocide is Biden’s legacy, hope it was worth saving “democracy”.

Your downvotes are a witness against you and do not absolve you of your guilt.

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Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.

On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.

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Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.

No, he’s just the one supporting funding and arming Israel no matter what they do for decades and voting for him continued to enable Israel which inevitably led to this moment we’re at now.

On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.

Whataboutism.

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Whataboutism.

the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.

The choice to vote for Biden is linked to the choice to vote against Trump. They can not be separated from one another. To do so is to be disingenuous. We live in a democracy with a two party system. The Republican party is disproportionally represented by our electoral system and win with low voter turn out.

Since we can not separate the choice of voting for Biden and rejecting Trump, it is justified to bring up what Trump and the Republicans would do. If we want any chance of the US demanding a ceasefire then we need to reject the Republican party who will blindly support Israeli no mater what.

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Sorry to disappoint you, but if the president was Trump or any other Republican your government would have been even firmer behind Israel, so it is a choice between a bad and a worse president.

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Whataboutism.

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Nope. Cold hard truth to your fucking pathetic attempt at putting Netty’s bloodthirst on Biden. You are beyond pathetic and frankly beyond stupid.

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Hell we would probably have deployed troops to Gaza and also to stand by in case of actions from Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, or Syria.

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I certainly did not vote for Netanyahu.

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But you voted for the guy who has been friends, worked with, and politically supported a Right-wing, ethnonationalist for over 40 years.

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Not voting for him again directly enables a guy that would do so much worse. Your stance lacks any understanding of the limits to our voting system.

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How could it be worse than genocide for Palestinians?

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Israel could genocide all 2.2 million people living in the Gaza Strip, all 3 million people living in the West Bank, the 1.6 million Palestinian people who live in Israel, the 5.5 million people living in Lebanon and get into a massive conflict in the Middle East where they end up using nuclear weapons.

Oh, and Trump could deport the 225 thousand Palestinian people living in the United States so Israel can genocide them too. Or just do it here in America. The Republicans will almost certainly streamline the death penalty and turn America’s mass incarceration system into death camps.

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That you apparently have the privilege to not be affected by the consequences of a Republican government doesn’t invalidate the choices of those who would be, and voted accordingly.

We are all complicit in the same way we are all complicit for the war crimes committed by America in the Middle East: most of us did not have a choice in the matter whatsoever. All we can do is demand them to stop.

I’m not going to judge someone whose choices are “genocide” and “genocide even more, and even more local genocide” and picks the former.

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On the contrary, you are displaying the tremendous privilege of living in the imperial core by being able to choose between “‘genocide’ and ‘genocide even more, and even more local genocide’” and justify literally voluntarily voting to choose genocide in order to make yourself feel more comfortable within the imperial core.

True fascism taking power in the US means that I and the people around me will be murdered. But I don’t feel the ethical apathy to be able to coldly prefer international genocide of others to keep myself safe at home all the while pretending like I saved the freedom for the entire world as children and whole families are being murdered. Biden is not the progressive savior all of you claimed he was, now at least you admit you chose “genocide”—which I do, and history will, judge harshly.

If you choose to vote for him again after this, you will consciously approve of genocide and be all the more guilty.

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All right, but this doesn’t make you any different from Trump supporters that Democrats love to accuse of (mostly correctly) being fascists.

The problem with you feeling like this critique makes you defensive and want to just go for the easy option is that there is always another option that you could do but it seems like it’s impossible for it to dawn upon you people. It’s either genocide or worse genocide. No other choice. But it’s also totally a functioning democracy worth defending, unlike those other bloodthirsty authoritarian regimes.

If you can’t figure out another option or don’t support it or think it’s impossible because it’s difficult so might as well not do it, then continue doing as you are but, yes, be aware there is blood on your hands and you are acting as a fascist supporter at best.

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