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They do, it isn’t a million. The article is deliberate sensationalism. If you read the Coast Guard’s press releases, you will see they didn’t say a million gallons was leaked.

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From the U.S. Coast Guard press release:

https://www.news.uscg.mil/Press-Releases/Article/3593964/update-1-unified-command-monitors-responds-to-mpog11015-incident/p

Initial engineering calculations indicate potential volume of crude oil that could have been released from the affected pipeline is 1.1 million gallons.

So yeah, no one can go out there with a bucket and measure it, but that’s probably a safe estimate.

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So you don’t find it questionable that this happened a week ago yet the most they’ve found is a couple hundred gallons?

And all these sites that claim a million, in their headlines, all say lower in their stories that there is no actual measurement and that it is only potentially?

I feel it undermines the issue when people are dishonest. I consider these headlines to be dishonest.

I regret engaging that one idiot that claims dispersants were used by BP to submerge the oil so people can’t see it.

That’s the kind of disinformation and dishonesty that makes it so difficult to have real outcomes. All the noise drowns out the signal.

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Just FYI, we don’t exactly know how much CO2 we’ve released, how many particles are in the atmosphere, how much water is in the ocean, etc. We use math and statistics to create estimates. They’ll have some amount of error, but it is not strange. In fact, acting like someone does know the quantity exactly would make me a lot more skeptical.

Also, don’t say “look at this thing…” and then when that exact thing proves you incorrect you just move the goal posts. That’s called a bad faith argument. Either you had faith in the USCG report or you didn’t. If you didn’t, don’t use it in your argument. If you did, you must accept what it says.

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You: If you read the Coast Guard’s press releases, you will see they didn’t say a million gallons was leaked.

Them: From the U.S. Coast Guard press release:

Initial engineering calculations indicate potential volume of crude oil that could have been released from the affected pipeline is 1.1 million gallons.

You: I regret engaging…

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