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German police raid homes of 17 people accused of posting antisemitic hate speech on social media(apnews.com)

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in the example you mention, one thing is antisemitism, the other is not

the fact they are saying it is doesnt make it so

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While true, if people are getting locked up for what you and I agree is not, there is functionally no difference between “is and gets locked up” and “isn’t but still gets locked up.” See what I mean? Saying is one thing, legal action is another. If one can limit speech, “one” being the ruling class/party, then anything they decide to limit can therefore be legally limited and they can turn it like the above article. If the ruling class is instead limited themselves in their abilty to limit speech, yes nazis can say “jews bad because nonsense,” and that sucks, but then you can also say “israel bad because genocide,” even if the ruling class does not want you to.

Case in point, has anyone been arrested for this in America yet? Not that I’m aware of. And that isn’t a bad thing.

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yes because it is being used as a tool by a totalitarian government, totalitarian governments would do that regardless of how anyone feels about free speech.

does not mean letting nazis and other criminal scum roam around is a good idea in a free country.

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Right, which is bad, and should be called out, which is exactly what I’m doing, which you then come to defend. Face it, the fact that they are a totalitarian (your word) government jailing people for speech is made possible by the fact that they do not have freedom of speech, this is all my exact point.

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