Problem is he’s 100% correct here. His take is more that they have not succeeded in eliminating anti-Semitism and persecution, not that Jews are inherently bad.
Kissinger was a jewish refugee from Nazi Germany, not an anti-semite.
Hate him all you want, he’s done plenty of shit to deserve it, but this “context” is straight up disinformation.
Quite frankly, the ADL commemorating him makes my blood boil. To be clear, they do some absolutely vital work combatting and monitoring hatred in the US, and I have been angered by the straight-up conspiracy theories about them. They are undoubtedly a scapegoat of a diverse swath of political movements. But between this (and Greenblatt’s recent defense of Musk), I cannot endorse them.
It seems like it’s easier to pick some prominent (often Jewish) person or organization to scapegoat than to actually confront the depths of American foreign policy, police brutality, etc. There’s no point to policing people’s anger towards Kissinger. He deserves much worse. But I cannot be fully comfortable with where it leads.
ADL has always been captured by right wing interests. I find the Southern Poverty Law Center to be much more reliable when it comes to what you think the ADL should be doing.
The “right” of this country hates the ADL as well. They’ve pretty consistently fought the American right and extremism in this country, from the red scare to the civil rights movement to LGBT rights to Trumpism, internet radicalization and the alt-right in the present.
What I would describe as the root of their hypocrisy is cowardice. That’s what I see when they give powerful people like Musk and Kissinger a free pass. It’s a short walk from cooperation and dialogue to outright complicity. To say it’s been ‘captured’ almost absolves it of responsibility; these are clearly choices made by the leadership, not puppeteered by outside influence.
There’s no point to policing people’s anger towards Kissinger.
I explicitly endorsed their anger. My issue is with the disinformation.
Here’s the thing, Jews can be antisemitic too, it’s internalized antisemitism. Even if he was still just saying “it’s the Jews’ fault for not having good PR” that’s not a good thing to say either. The onus shouldn’t be on Jewish people to convince others not to be bigoted and genocidal towards them. Not being bigoted and genocidal towards any group of people should be a given.
What’s one of the worst things he did, in your opinion? Also I don’t think exact quotes can be misinformation.
“… exact quotes can be misinformation.”
sub_ubi, on interpreting historical figure quotes without the full context.
“Exact quotes can be misinformation” I’m glad we agree. In all seriousness, it’s not exactly hard to intentionally or even accidentally mischaracterize a direct quote by taking it out of context.
As for the worst things, I think the Bangladesh genocide is not mentioned enough. Though if you type into google “Henry Kissinger [insert any country here]” you’ll definitely find something horrific.
They said disinformation, not misinformation. Disinformation and misinformation are both information that’s incorrect. The difference between dis-and-misinformation is intent; disinformation is spread with the express purpose of misleading.
A direct quote can be taken out of context or manipulated to convey a false message.
If I quote you out of context, I can make you appear to hold any position I’d like.
That’s a classic disinformation tactic. Happens in every political campaign.
