It’s really simple… the people with money get to dictate how these “reforms” work - that’s it. It doesn’t matter if you get a Bernie Sanders into a position of power - the “vested interests” will dictate all the little loop holes in the small script that allows for “business as usual” to continue, and that’s if they bother to hide it at all. It’s literally how we ended up in this terrible situation.

Yes, which is why you should hit where you are not expected.

Which is why statism always works for the stronger side.

I don’t get why leftists don’t usually understand this. I’m not a leftist, but this should be a very simple conclusion.

I don’t know what kind of “leftists” you have been talking to… the ones I talk to understand this very well. It’s pretty much been the bedrock of anarchist thought for more than a hundred years now.

I live in Russia so most leftists here are Stalinists in one way or another, or at least Trostkyists, which still means centralism.

Stalinists are right-wingers with red flags - there’s nothing leftist about them at all. Trots are barely any better. People forget that leftist ideas are popular - that is why there are so many political racketeers in the world pretending to buy into those ideas while actively distorting the same ideas to suit their political agenda. Even old Adolf did it - but no-one is as guilty as the charlatans that ran the USSR and is currently running the PRC. The USSR was about as “socialist” as the US is “democratic” - ie, their (respective) “socialism” and “democracy” only exists in the minds of propagandists.

USSR was “democratic” too ; still much less than USA.

I may agree about Stalinists, at least modern ones. Some of the older generation may mix it with actual Marxism.

Modern-day Stalinists do not have an excuse… the truth is perfectly available to them. They are no different to people who deny the Holocaust or climate change.

Oh, look… a pretend-leftist. What’s the matter, tankie? Dropped your little red flag in the toilet?

It’s pretty much been the bedrock of anarchist thought for more than a hundred years now.

And anarchists are a rounding error, numerically. You’re in a bubble.

Is that some secret code between you and the aliens that will be coming to fetch you “any day now,” Clyde?

…whatever drugs you’re on, I want some

I’m not the one speaking gibberish… I’m just trying to be nice and speak to your level.

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