Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

Eyewitnesses told journalists that clubgoers’ documents were checked and photographed by the security services. They also said that managers had been able to warn patrons before police arrived.

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I don’t know people incorrectly try to associate everything with Nazi. It’s hard to take anyone serious when they don’t even know what a Nazi is.

This isn’t dissimilar from how they were under the Soviet Union. Russians are just going to Russian.

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Not so much “Russians being Russian” as it is “Fascist power structure being fascist power structure “

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It’s more accurate to say that Russia under the Soviets was also an authoritarian state.

Authoritarians by their very nature are right-wing.

Putin, the Soviets, the Nazis, Conservatives, and Fascists of all flavors are obsessed with control and conformity.

It’s far easier to control a population when everyone is exactly the same.

This is why the true left wing movements have always embraced minorities and outliers.

This of course is a call back to the very origins of the terms left and right when discussing politics. The French Revolution. A vote was held. One of the first of the new assembly. The question was, “Should the king have an absolute veto over new laws?”. Those in support of the monarchy sat to the right of the speaker’s podium. Those opposed sat to the left.

All the economic bullshit of capitalism v communism was added later. Making the Soviets, a supposedly communist nation, firmly right wing. Not that the Soviets were particularly good at actual communism. Communism sort of requires the workers to control the means of production, not the State. Workers must be working for their own profit, not the profit of the State.

Working for the profit of the State is more of a kleptocracy.

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The nazis criminalized, imprisoned, and eventually exterminated gay and transgender people in death camps. So yes, comparisons to nazis are fair when you criminalize lgbt people and start rounding them up in jail, preventing them from gathering together, etc etc

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I see you are well acquainted with the idea of redfash

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no such thing.

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It’s true that authleft often looks a lot like authright, which supports the theory that political alignment is more like a circle than a line. After all, they were allies before Hitler betrayed Stalin. Since then being anti-Nazi became a big part of Russian propaganda.

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After all, they were allies before Hitler betrayed Stalin.

You’re using this to support your argument that authleft = authright, but you’re forgetting that Lenin was an agent of Germany. The alliance between Germany and Russia predates both Hitler and Stalin, and had nothing to do with whether their governments were similar in any way.

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Lenin was an agent of Germany.

Are you thinking of Karl Marx? Lenin was Russian.

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