I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies.

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I guess you can’t steal anything when you just decide to limit the definition of the word.

But if we’re in reality and using the way words are actually defined then yes you can steal something intangible, and no it does not require someone to be deprived of something.

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I’m not going to look up every state, but the Penal Code in some states explicitly define theft as:

A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property.

So, I think it is reasonable to include intent to deprive as part of the definition.

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You do understand the difference between penal code and the definition of a word, no? Surely the reason why the two are not at all even slightly interchangeable is plainly clear to anyone of reasonable intelligence.

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In the state where I live, the penal code includes the legal definitions of words such as “theft”.

The legal system here does not use a Webster’s dictionary to define words. We use the penal code, code of criminal procedure, traffic code and other legal guidance codes to define the meanings of words used in the law and in official government communications.

These are the definitions that would be used by complainants in cases brought against pirates, if such a case were to be brought. For that reason, I believe these definitions are relevant here.

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I don’t think you understand how laws work. Many times, they are required to define terms in order to enforce the law.

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decide to limit the definition of the word.

To what it actually means? Sure.

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To selectively focus on one small sliver of the definition of the word, ignoring the full meaning of the word and the context to push your agenda? Smells like propaganda.

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The entire definition matters. There’s already a term for “copyright infringement” it’s “copyright infringement”. Pretending it’s theft is just a trick the copyright cartels are using to try to make it seem like a serious crime that has existed for millennia instead of a relatively new rule imposed in the last few centuries by the government, then made ridiculous by the entertainment cartel.

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I guess you can’t steal anything when you just decide to limit the definition of the word.

I guess you can steal anything when you expand the definition of the word to anything you want.

You live on the internet, it would take you 5 seconds to link to the “actual definition” you are using if the word was actually used that way.

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