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People keep debating over this stuff. I have a simpler solution. Math is not real.

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I’m with you. Has anyone ever actually seen a math? Can you buy a math at the math store? Are there bespoke math craftspeople?

No.

I rest my case.

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5 points

Is math in the room with us right now?

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“Math” is a mass noun. You can’t have “a math”. It’s like blood or love. You can have more blood or less blood. There might be units in which blood is measured that you can have a certain number of (“a gallon of blood”), but you can’t have, unqualified, a blood or two bloods (well, not in that sense of the word, anyway).

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You can’t have “a math”

No, you have a branch of Mathematics.

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2 points

You know this is 196, right?

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My mom’s a mathematician, she got annoyed when I said that the order of operations is just arbitrary rules made up by people a couple thousand years ago

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My mom’s a mathematician, she got annoyed when I said that the order of operations is just arbitrary rules made up by people a couple thousand years ago

I’m not surprised. Here’s the proof of the order of operations rules. Also, the equals sign wasn’t invented until the 16th century, so only 500 years old at most (the earliest references to order of operations are over 400 years ago).

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That proof for the order of operations sure seems to rely a lot on our current order of operations…

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It’s organized so that more powerful operations get precedence, which seems natural.

Set aside intentionally confusing expressions. The basic idea of the Order of Operations holds water even without ever formally learning the rules.

If an addition result comes first and gets exponentiated, the changes from the addition are exaggerated. It makes addition more powerful than it should be. The big stuff should happen first, then the more granular operations. Of course, there are specific cases where we need to reorder, or add clarity, which is why human decisions about groupings are at the top.

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The big stuff should happen first, then the more granular operations

The “big stuff” is stuff that is defined in terms of something else. i.e. exponents are shorthand for repeated multiplication… and multiplication is shorthand for repeated addition, hence they have to be done in that order or you get wrong answers.

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Yeah, but that’s why I like to buff my base attack before I invest in multipliers and armor penetration!

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The only real answer lmao. People really out here thinking the funny symbols on the paper follow absolute laws. Crazy.

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thinking the funny symbols on the paper follow absolute laws

They do. Maths is universal, just like the laws of Physics (which are often written using Maths BTW).

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