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So changing the user agent to chrome to fool websites that work shittier on non chromium stuff will ruin this metric?

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No, what this means is sites might start adopting features like PassKeys - a major browser feature that works in every browser except FireFox and one where you just might not be able to access the service, at all, unless your browser has support.

(Passkeys are a replacement for passwords - essentially the idea is to take the technology commonly used for second factor authentication and use it as your “first factor” instead)

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PassKeys - a major browser feature that works in every browser except FireFox

So… Chrome and Safari? Because the rest of browsers are just rebranded Chrome.

I’m not particularly a fan of passkeys, because I’m fairly happy with my password manager, but personal opinions apart, just because Google and Apple decided to implement a feature, that doesn’t make it an standard.

This is why Chrome having the web engine monopoly is such a big problem. They can implement whatever they want and because it will also be adopted by Edge, Opera and others, it seems to automatically be considered a web standard and websites will start using it even when the other major independent browser (Firefox) hasn’t implemented it.

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Isn’t that what password managers are for? People don’t store credentials in browsers, not sure why they’d start for passkeys when password managers are rolling out support.

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People don’t store credentials in browsers

Yes they do - every browser asks users if they want to remember the password they just entered. Many people say yes, I do too for most cases - it is very convinient.

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God this reminds me that it took Firefox forever to support security keys natively. I hope PassKeys are implemented quickly in Firefox if they take off.

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a major browser feature that works in every browser except FireFox

Funny cause it works fine in my browser with a bitwarden plugin. I don’t need and actually REALLY don’t want my browser handling my passwords… or passkeys… or whatever the fuck authenticates me.

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I use 1password for passkeys on FF, works great.

I know your point is native, just want to point it out.

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Maybe its because I’m on Nightly but PassKeys work natively for me on Windows 11 with Firefox already

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I’m using passkeys in Firefox everyday just fine.

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No, what I mean is “metric” as in data about users per browser.

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it wouldn’t do anything if chrome was the next fallback that it was coded for anyway. worst case parts of the site don’t render correctly.

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