Tesla Whistleblower Says ‘Autopilot’ System Is Not Safe Enough To Be Used On Public Roads::“It affects all of us because we are essentially experiments in public roads.”

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Also, my robot vacuum has LiDAR. It’s not expensive relative to a car.

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Hell every iphone has lidar and the pro models have two lidar cameras. The tech is not very expensive, epecially not for a $80,000 car.

My partner’s econobox has lidar for its cruise control, but Tesla can’t seem to figure out how to make it work.

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Hell every iphone has lidar and the pro models have two lidar cameras. The tech is not very expensive, epecially not for a $80,000 car.

Around the time Elon made the claim Lidar for automotive purposes was quite expensive. That additional cost would make the self driving product a lot less desirable. Up selling cruise control into “self driving” earned them a lot of money.

Funnily enough all other aspects where Tesla has taken the expensive option the cult retail investors would claim it was brilliant decisions because economy of scale would kick in and make it cheaper in the long run.

Lidar was obviously exempt from any such scale and future tech improvements, because reasons.

My partner’s econobox has lidar for its cruise control, but Tesla can’t seem to figure out how to make it work.

It could be very expensive for Tesla to start using Lidar, because they’ve sold a lot of cars with the promise that they have the hardware for self driving. Retrofitting a million cars would not only cost a lot in terms of gear and work, but it would put additional stress on an already poor service network.

They have painted themselves into a corner. All because leadership thought self driving was a more or less solved problem almost a decade ago.

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Good point. I thought Teslas had radar for awhile though and they took it out?

Was lidar that expensive in a car though? Because Infiniti started adding it in 2014 for the cruise control and those cars usually sell new for $50k if you get it fully loaded.

And they could have added radar and sonar to assist the cameras at least. The radar couldn’t give 3d data, but it could say “yo bro that’s a solid object, not the skyline” at least.

Good point on the promises though. They really fucked themselves with Elon’s claims.

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Rebrand to Ludicrous Self Drive and add back LIDAR.

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It’s actually gotten cheaper since they figured out how to make it solid state.

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