The ability to change features, prices, and availability of things you’ve already paid for is a powerful temptation to corporations.

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Honestly that’s only because people are intimidated by big words.

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There is no such thing as intellectual property - you can not own a thought.

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You seem to not understand what the word own means and the difference between material and not material goods.

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I love how you guys play these mental gymnastics to justify this shit to yourselves.

I love how you bootlickers always deny that anyone could possibly have a principled objection to modern intellectual property laws. I don’t need to “justify” at all. I rarely even pirate anything, but I don’t believe I’m doing anything wrong when I do.

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“Something you never would have dedicated as much time to if you couldn’t be compensated for it.”

Just telling on yourself 😂

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Intellectual property is not a thought that you own. It’s an idea

Ah, it’s an idea, not a thought. Gotcha. Glad you cleared that up.

Something that actually takes time to make, often a whole lot of time.

Who the fuck cares? Dinner also takes a great deal of time to make.

Something you never would have dedicated as much time to if you couldn’t be compensated for it.

That’s not true. People have been telling stories and creating art since humanity climbed down from the trees. Compensation might encourage more people to do it, but there was never a time that people weren’t creating, regardless of compensation. In addition, copyright, patents and trademarks are only one way of trying to get compensation. The Sistine chapel ceiling was painted not by an artist who was protected by copyright, but by an artist who had rich patrons who paid him to work.

Maybe “Meg 2: The Trench” wouldn’t have been made unless Warner Brothers knew it would be protected by copyright until 2143. But… maybe it’s not actually necessary to give that level of protection to the expression of ideas for people to be motivated to make them. In addition, maybe the harms of copyright aren’t balanced by the fact that people in 2143 will finally be able to have “Meg 2: The Trench” in the public domain.

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Intellectual property is a scam, the term was invented to convince dumb people that a government-granted monopoly on the expression of an idea is the same thing as “property”.

You can’t “steal” intellectual property, you can only infringe on someone’s monopoly rights.

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This feels like an easy statement to make when it applies to Disney putting out new Avatar movies. Then, suddenly, you realize how extensively it causes problems when you’re a photographer trying to get magazines to pay for copies of the once-in-a-lifetime photo you took, instead of re-printing it without your permission.

“InfORMaTioN wANts tO Be FrEe, yO.”

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Then, suddenly, you realize how extensively it causes problems when you’re a photographer trying to get magazines to pay for copies of the once-in-a-lifetime photo you took

That’s a pretty specific example. Probably because in many cases photographers are paid in advance. A wedding photographer doesn’t show up at the wedding, take a lot of pictures, then try to work out a deal with the couple getting married. They negotiate a fee before the wedding, and when the wedding is over they turn over the pictures in exchange for the money. Other photographers work on a salary.

Besides, even with your convoluted, overly-specific example, even without a copyright, a magazine would probably pay for the photo. Even if they didn’t get to control the copying of the photo, they could still get the scoop and have the picture out before other people. In your world, how would they “reprint” it without your permission? Would they break into your house and sneakily download it from your phone or camera?

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For someone who bitches all over this thread about people strawmanning their position, this is a pretty fucking great reply.

Hint: one can be pissed about people throwing around the not-based-in-legal-reality term “intellectual property.” One can be pissed about people using it as part of a strategy to purposely confuse the public into thinking that copyright infringement is the same as theft, a strategy which has apparently worked mightily well on you. One can be all of those things, and yet still feel that copyright infringement is wrong and no one should be entitled to “literally everything someone else creates.”

What you posted was a textbook definition of a straw man.

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If no one thinks that, why are you saying it right now?

Actual theft of intellectual property would involve somehow tricking the world into thinking you hold the copyright to something that someone else owns.

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Isn’t ‘theft of intellectual property’ taking someone else’s work and try to pass it off as your own?

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Nah, if I stole their IP, they wouldn’t have it anymore

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