Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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I’ll echo the words of my friend, who is a permanent wheelchair user:

“Yes, I identify with my disability as part of who I am, but I would still take a cure without hesitation”

Yes, people with disabilities identify with their disability, so even in a fantasy setting I can see how their disability would be part of their character.

But every disabled person I know would figuratively leap at the opportunity to reverse their disability with magic. It is also basically impossible to use a wheelchair while holding something like a wand or a staff or a fireball in one hand, so if there’s enough magic around to push a wheelchair, there’s probably enough to make your legs work. That’s why somebody has a good reason not to expect a wheelchair in a fantasy world. I can see how somebody who doesn’t really know any disabled people would panic at the idea of a wheelchair being part of the narrative or something like that, and I can sympathize with it.

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It’s a bit of a double-edged sword. Representation is great, because it makes us feel less like a shame to be ignored or scorned - but also, being disabled fucking sucks, kind of by definition, and it’s hard to take seriously people who peddle the ‘handicapable’ stuff. I don’t need any toxic positivity in my life, thanks.

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The only people I have ever seen claim that disabilities aren’t so bad and you can live completely normal etc. are people with no disabilities at all. I’m not disabled, my eyesight is just shit and I don’t know what I’d be willing to do to get normal eyesight. Just to get rid of a pair of glasses. I can’t imagine the lengths someone actually disabled would go to in order to get a cure.

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“I’m not disabled, my eyesight is just shit and I don’t know what I’d be willing to do to get normal eyesight. Just to get rid of a pair of glasses.”

I apparently would pay someone a large sum of money to zap my eyes with a laser using a giant machine with only the vague promise that after the laser burns heal, your vision will be better.

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laser burns

Technically not burning. Even though (and nobody warned me of this before my procedure) it sure af smells like something is burning while the laser shines down on your exposed retina, that’s actually the smell of vaporised cornea.

TL;DR: laser vaporisation, not laser burning. Much more metal.

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Valid point, let’s work with it

Nitpick: “large sum of money” - at least here laser treatment is pretty cheap (less than 1k for both eyes)

1: My eyesight is too bad for laser treatment, by the time my eyesight would be corrected there would be nothing left of my cornea and likely retina as well.

1.5: I still have options available to me that, as you point out, just involve throwing more money at the problem

2: me having that option is beside the point. The point is that even just a minor nuisance like glasses is enough to seriously fuck with someone’s (perceived) quality of life, never mind something that actually severely impacts your daily life.

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I’m in the same boat, and I’ve learned that the answer is I don’t want the smell of burning eyeball lingering in my mind no matter how well I see afterwards.

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In our world we do have the magic to push a wheelchair around, and it’s not even hard to do this. Tinkerers can cast the spell of self-propelling wheelchair in their garages.

But magicing someone’s legs to work is still a far way off.

(Remember, when magic is well explained and documented, and people get used to it, they tend to call it technology.)

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(Remember, when magic is well explained and documented, and people get used to it, they tend to call it technology.)

Depends on the kind of magic. Magic machines that do wondrous things? Sure, technology. Magic where you manipulate energies with the power of thought and will alone? I’ma stick with magic, thank you.

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“oh that’s just telekinesis”

“cool nickname, still magic!”

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If by “not even hard” you mean “costs as much as a car”, then sure. My friend also let me know just how costly power chairs are.

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It’s expensive for sure, but that’s mostly because powered chairs are made by medical companies and in comparatively low numbers.

A mobility scooter has almost all components a powered chair has, and these can be had for as little as €1000.

The technology behind a powered chair isn’t hard.

And even if we use the high price of a power scooter: How much does it cost to make a paraplegic person walk?

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“Not even hard” and “costs as much as a car” aren’t mutually exclusive when it comes to the field of medicine, especially in the US. Many drugs cost pharmaceutical companies pennies to manufacture, but they still sell them for hundreds per pill simply because they can. Medical equipment often employs similar price gouging for no other reason than to profit as much as possible from people who have little choice but to pay.

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Cochlear implants are frowned upon by some in the Deaf community.

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I went to a NTID school, the community there does not consider themselves to have a “disability” literally. To them, it’s just a language.

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There’s a lot of cultural stuff there that I’m certainly not qualified to comment on.

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To them, it’s just a language.

What is? Being deaf isn’t a language. Sign language absolutely is a language, or to be more accurate, it’s a whole class of languages, because ASL is as different from AusLan or BSL as English is from Spanish or German.

And like any language, it’s more than just a set of definitions and rules of grammar. It carries culture.

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It is also basically impossible to use a wheelchair while holding something in one hand, so if there’s enough magic around to push a wheelchair, there’s probably enough to make your legs work.

First, off the top, you can stop your wheelchair, use your hand(s) for something else, and then start moving again.

Second, you’re making a lot of assumptions about the magic system. Every magic system has limitations. What if healing is a clerical spell, not a magic spell, and there are no clerics around? Maybe the nearest cleric who can heal is many miles away, perhaps over dangerous terrain inhabited by bandits, monsters, etc. Maybe the spell requires some very specific and difficult-to-obtain materials. Or maybe the spell is very high-level, requiring many years to learn, so clerics or mages charge a very high fee for this service. Any of these, or a combination, could be a reason why a disabled person (or a family member on their behalf) is questing.

Maybe the knowledge of the healing magic was held by some ancient civilization and it was lost when that civilization fell, but the disabled character has found a clue to where some ancient ruins could be unearthed where the secret might be found.

Or maybe the GM just says “Yeah, spells can’t do that in this setting.”

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