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Using someone’s preferred pronouns isn’t woke, it’s basic human decency.

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Motherfuckers calling each other by their online nicknames since wow released in 2004, now complaining about someone asking to be called certain way.

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As a straight dude, I’m not about to call another dude ‘miss’. Don’t force me into your convention.

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Cool, then call a woman miss, because that’s what trans women fucking are. Women.

And calling trans men dude is still very fine, since they are men. I think you actually could manage this very basic level of human decency.

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As a straight dude

Damn, that closet must be damp with all the sweat and cum.

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Ah yes, because acting with basic decency towards a [TYPE OF PERSON] definitely means you must be a little bit [TYPE OF PERSON] too.

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As a straight dude, if another dude insisted on seeing a woman’s genitals before calling her ‘miss’ I would punch him in the face.

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Internet nicknames are way older than that.

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Yeah I know, but internet used to be more of a niche space, WoW made more mainstream the whole thing.

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But not those motherfuckers.

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Using someone’s preferred pronouns isn’t woke, it’s basic human decency.

Basic human decency is woke.

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These terms tend to get abused by jerks so much that they start to mean something else. I have seen too many people identifying as “woke” who use bullying as a method of getting their way, lack compassion for anyone who doesn’t share their views, shaming others, and are generally tribalistic.

Basic human decency would be to see the person behind a political view and understand that they have fears and pains, to be curious about them and try to understand where they’re coming from. And then talk with them from a place of compassion. We’re all a product of our genes and experiences, and everybody is a hero in their own story.

Elon too, while misguided, wants to do good. But look at how his dad has treated him growing up: called him an idiot his entire life, impregnated his step sister, and emotionally and physically abused him. Plus I’m pretty sure he’s neurodivergent. If anybody wants to get him to see the error of his ways, more abusive language is certainly not going to help. He’s being pushed into a corner and in his mind he sees a world that is increasingly broken by vile people who don’t understand him or his vision for improving the world. I think he believes his own words when he talks about “neutral” politics, but his idea of neutral has been severely skewed. Elon has in fact done a lot of good for the world, but he needs people he trust to keep his feet on the ground. That can’t be achieved by chastising him, but by praising the things he does well and getting him to spend more time among “normal” people and good role models. In the meantime though, to protect the world from powerful broken men, we need regulation to keep them fenced off.

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Elon too, while misguided, wants to do good

There’s no reason to believe this.

But look at how his dad has treated him growing up

An explanation as to why someone’s a bad person doesn’t make them less bad.

Plus I’m pretty sure he’s neurodivergent.

He’s autistic. Most autistic people aren’t narcissistic megalomaniacs, and if they are, they should be called out for it.

If anybody wants to get him to see the error of his ways, more abusive language is certainly not going to help.

A moot point, he will not accept anything but the yes men he grew up around and lived the last 52 years being applauded by.

He’s being pushed into a corner and in his mind he sees a world that is increasingly broken by vile people who don’t understand him or his vision for improving the world.

I do understand his vision, and the vision is broken and harmful.

Elon has in fact done a lot of good for the world, but he needs people he trust to keep his feet on the ground.

He has? Like his racially segregated factories? Or the monkeys he experiments on the brains of?

That can’t be achieved by chastising him, but by praising the things he does well and getting him to spend more time among “normal” people and good role models

This is ineffective with people in such a power position.

In the meantime though, to protect the world from powerful broken men, we need regulation to keep them fenced off.

Agreed.

Ultimately, Elon Musk is a genuinely harmful and bad person, who is both uncritically malicious to those who dare criticize him, and is incredibly foolish at every endeavour he involves himself in. “His” successes come as a result of people he hired walling him off in his companies so that he continues to invest in technologies while being blind to any important part of production he might find interesting enough to meddle in.

Your take on him is one I can empathize with, and I even held myself for a while, but at the end of the day, it’s a benefit of the doubt he expressly does not deserve.

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Bollocks. I don’t believe you have seen too many people identifying as woke. People that hold the beliefs you’re talking about don’t generally identify as woke. You’re talking about attitudes attributed to wokedom entirely by conservatives trying to rile up their base. They’re using moral panic via the culture war to politically destabilise in an environment where they have no policy to bring to the table that anyone wants, and you’ve fallen for it. Go consume some actual leftist content and try to critique it the way you are now in good faith. You won’t be able to.

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Maybe this is somehow enlightening to someone who has never considered someone they (morally, religiously, ethically, politically) oppose human, but I am aware of all this and recognise that Elon Musk is still a piece of shit whose bigotry has made him hated in public and his private life. Over and over he makes the choice to be a dog turd, and that’s not somehow the fault of wokies, even when they’re misguided. It’s like when racists say “well they kept calling me a racist for no good reason, so now I actually am”. He’s not a 4 year old that just needs to be gentle parented. He’s a full-grown adult that needs to stop perpetually throwing temper tantrums when someone disagrees with him.

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Tomato, tomato, as far as they’re concerned.

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Tomato, tomato translates hilariously poorly in text, I’m dying

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Let me finish you off. Potato, potato

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Tomahto, Tomayto.

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tom8o tom@o

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It is not anti-woke, which by anti-woke logic means it’s woke.

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Hello fellow meatbag

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What does woke actually mean to you in this context? Are you just referring to the way convervatives have appropriated it? Because that’s exactly what woke is

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