Mathematically they’re equivalent, but the feelings could not be further apart.
Ah yeah. I forget about that set of bikers often as I only associated with the ADV folks who are all about ATGATT. Really weird to me to think that people actually want to be PPE luddites and miss the chance to wear a modern suit of armor, without being out of place or violating the laws of some municipalities.
3 points
Yeah I never understood it myself. I once had a run in with one of those “hard ass types” while on a little virago 250 and they proceeded to lecture me on the ways of the roads…which was entirely just giving them right of way always no matter what. He was annoyed at me for passing him on a 250…in traffic.