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I think you’re overthinking it. I just think it’s funny how relevant it always seems to be every election

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But that’s my point, it’s not relevant. It’s a bOtH SiDeS sAmE enlightened centrist platitude that’s just meant to ride the fence to avoid pissing anyone off. “Haha, both the candidates suck, I don’t want to vote for either.” That’s neither insightful nor entertaining. There are real differences between the candidates, the parties, and the various sides of an issue, and pretending it doesn’t matter is part of why the world is a fucking mess.

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You say that like it matters what a Democrat’s position is. It doesn’t. Not even when they have a supermajority in Congress and control the Supreme Court. They will not get things done.

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Status quo is far from ideal, but it’s still better than actively trying to make things worse.

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Are you suggesting that there is no difference between a turd sandwich and a giant douche?

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I’m suggesting that people who quote that line do so in order to imply that there isn’t a difference. The whole episode is about how Stan doesn’t care for either candidate, and resents being forced to choose.

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Honestly, for me it’s just a reflection of the fact that there are always going to be 2 shitty candidates. It’s not some centrist manifesto, obviously Biden is still the clear choice compared to a fucking fascist psychopath.

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As someone who is neither centrist nor enamored of either party, it isn’t ever “both sides are the same.” It’s "these two groups actively work together to prevent others from sharing the platform’ and ‘of all of the possible candidates, these are their best?’

Biden is better than Trump, point blank. Regardless, if Biden is polling poorly, then the Democrats should set aside their pride and pick a candidate that appeals to independents and proper progressives. The Democratic base will vote for whoever the DNC fields, so the real challenge is convincing those swing voters.

Attempting to shame people into voting for a problematic candidate is what got us Trump in the first place. Perhaps its time to listen to those seeking actual change.

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Biden is better than Trump, point blank. Regardless, if Biden is polling poorly, then the Democrats should set aside their pride and pick a candidate that appeals to independents and proper progressives.

Or at the very least, fix their fucking messaging.

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